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Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League

Posted By: Larry Miller

Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/27/19 04:21 PM

GIRLS ECNL ANNOUNCES ‘ECNL REGIONAL LEAGUE – NORTHEAST CONFERENCE’ FOR THE 2019-20 SEASON

RICHMOND, VA (March 27, 2019) – In an effort to provide competition and development opportunities for a deeper player pool, the Girls Elite Clubs National League will launch the Girls ECNL Regional League – Northeast Conference beginning in the 2019-20 season. The Girls ECNL Regional League – Northeast Conference will include competition at the U13, U14, U15, U16, U17 and U18/U19 age groups.

The Girls ECNL Regional League platform was piloted in Texas in the 2018-19 season, where seven clubs within the ECNL Texas Conference participated in four age groups. The ECNL Regional League – Texas Conference was tremendously successful, providing great competition within a professional environment, and will expand in 2019-20.

Girls ECNL Regional Leagues provide local and regional competition within a conference structure, and are operated and managed by the Girls ECNL. The Girls ECNL Regional Leagues allow improved coordination between teams of different levels within ECNL clubs, and opportunity for players to develop and prepare for the Girls ECNL in the future.

Qualifiers from Girls ECNL Regional Leagues will earn post-season competition opportunities beginning in June 2020.

More information regarding the Girls ECNL Regional Leagues will be released in the coming weeks.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/27/19 04:40 PM

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, is this basically a renaming and repackaging of what is currently the Northeast Girls NPL? That was essentially second teams for the ECNL clubs, so it sounds like this would be the same thing but now managed directly by ECNL and given the ECNL naming.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/27/19 05:29 PM

And there's the ECNL 2 we've all been speculating about. Now just need to see the club list.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/27/19 05:46 PM

Wait, is the ECNL regional league the same as ECNL 2? OMG really, Please help me decide this mess. Will the teams be the same teams already in the northeast NPL division? Or different?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/27/19 06:24 PM

ECNL, ECNL2, ECNL Regional. Yes, let's all be happy for the "all-in" clubs. Complain about US Soccer but this is all about getting money.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/27/19 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
ECNL, ECNL2, ECNL Regional. Yes, let's all be happy for the "all-in" clubs. Complain about US Soccer but this is all about getting money.


ECNL was formed by the Top, most successful clubs in each region to maximize the competitiveness not only within the club for training purposes but also to form a competitive league for those top players in those top clubs in al four regions. For that they have greatly succeeded. GDA was formed by US Soccer to even narrow the focus of competitiveness and training to those "serous" players who want to train and play matches in a ration of 4:1. Quite clear that DA has fallen short of there goal and now ECNL is taking advantage of the blunders of US Soccer by now moving past there exclusivity of being a top league to instead "Branding" there league name and become a league for all with many different levels of league play. They are hoping that the name "ECNL" will now entice everyone to join regardless of a players skill. I wonder if the pricing for each of these leagues will be equal. Using PDA as an example they have 2 teams in the top ECNL league will that price be the highest where both teams combined have approx 50 players and then with the additional leagues of ECNL2 and this newly formed ECNL Regional league will the price be the same as the top league? Parents really need to do there homework when it comes to all these newly formed leagues. This in my opinion is the very definition of the word "slick".
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/27/19 07:22 PM

Will there really be an ECNL2 and ECNL regional as separate items? Or are they just rolling out the second ECNL regionally?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/27/19 07:32 PM

Won’t be ECNL 2 & ECNL RL, it’s one and the same. Question I have is will PDA & FC Stars still get two ECNL teams and one ECNL RL team while everyone else gets one in each league?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/27/19 07:46 PM

And does NE NPL cease to exist, or is this another layer?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/28/19 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Won’t be ECNL 2 & ECNL RL, it’s one and the same. Question I have is will PDA & FC Stars still get two ECNL teams and one ECNL RL team while everyone else gets one in each league?


It’s 2 ECNL teams AND 2 ECNL RL teams
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/28/19 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Won’t be ECNL 2 & ECNL RL, it’s one and the same. Question I have is will PDA & FC Stars still get two ECNL teams and one ECNL RL team while everyone else gets one in each league?


It’s 2 ECNL teams AND 2 ECNL RL teams



To be fair, PDA and Stars are the only clubs who have the quality numbers to support
4 teams. The RL teams will be nothing more than EDP or similar level. It’s marketing and nothing more.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/28/19 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Won’t be ECNL 2 & ECNL RL, it’s one and the same. Question I have is will PDA & FC Stars still get two ECNL teams and one ECNL RL team while everyone else gets one in each league?


It’s 2 ECNL teams AND 2 ECNL RL teams



To be fair, PDA and Stars are the only clubs who have the quality numbers to support
4 teams. The RL teams will be nothing more than EDP or similar level. It’s marketing and nothing more.


I'm not so sure about that. Lots of quality players out there who either aren't interested in the DA, or didn't make the first ECNL team. As competitve as first ECNL team, probably not, but a nice alternative especially if they will attend the Showcases.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/28/19 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Won’t be ECNL 2 & ECNL RL, it’s one and the same. Question I have is will PDA & FC Stars still get two ECNL teams and one ECNL RL team while everyone else gets one in each league?


It’s 2 ECNL teams AND 2 ECNL RL teams



To be fair, PDA and Stars are the only clubs who have the quality numbers to support
4 teams. The RL teams will be nothing more than EDP or similar level. It’s marketing and nothing more.


I'm not so sure about that. Lots of quality players out there who either aren't interested in the DA, or didn't make the first ECNL team. As competitve as first ECNL team, probably not, but a nice alternative especially if they will attend the Showcases.



Do you really think WC, Susa,EM,Matchfit in this area can support 4 teams per age group? Most struggle with having 2. Beyond top 2 teams the rest are of the players are just local club ability. RL league would turn into mush. Keep it competitive.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/28/19 08:04 PM

It would be good for clubs like SUSA that carry 22 plus per roster. NOthing like going to a game and being told you can;t play because to many are here. Maybe with a 2 more teams you may get playing time.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/28/19 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
It would be good for clubs like SUSA that carry 22 plus per roster. NOthing like going to a game and being told you can;t play because to many are here. Maybe with a 2 more teams you may get playing time.



How long can SUSA even sustain the whole 22 player per roster model? Families are paying way too much money to get little to no playing time. At some point, these families will look elsewhere.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/28/19 11:11 PM

girls were told to sit at last tournament as too many girls were on the bench and only some of us were able to dress. Unfair to all of us never knowing when this will happen until the day or so before a match we are told
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
girls were told to sit at last tournament as too many girls were on the bench and only some of us were able to dress. Unfair to all of us never knowing when this will happen until the day or so before a match we are told



Exactly, that's not cool. So how long are families going to put up with that? Doesn't sound like a good long term plan and obviously given the last post, there are families who aren't going to put up with that much longer.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
girls were told to sit at last tournament as too many girls were on the bench and only some of us were able to dress. Unfair to all of us never knowing when this will happen until the day or so before a match we are told



Exactly, that's not cool. So how long are families going to put up with that? Doesn't sound like a good long term plan and obviously given the last post, there are families who aren't going to put up with that much longer.


Plenty of teams have large rosters but coaches manage the process better. Not telling players ahead of time who is or isn't playing is totally uncool. However, parents also need to do their due diligence ahead of time. Know that if they are accepting a spot on a large roster that PT issues will almost always arise. It you're not confident your player is a starter or at least a first sub in, you should seriously consider other options here more PT is assured.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
girls were told to sit at last tournament as too many girls were on the bench and only some of us were able to dress. Unfair to all of us never knowing when this will happen until the day or so before a match we are told



Exactly, that's not cool. So how long are families going to put up with that? Doesn't sound like a good long term plan and obviously given the last post, there are families who aren't going to put up with that much longer.


Plenty of teams have large rosters but coaches manage the process better. Not telling players ahead of time who is or isn't playing is totally uncool. However, parents also need to do their due diligence ahead of time. Know that if they are accepting a spot on a large roster that PT issues will almost always arise. It you're not confident your player is a starter or at least a first sub in, you should seriously consider other options here more PT is assured.


Kids want and need to play, period. Have no sympathy for those parents paying thousands of dollars to see their kid ride the pine game after game and tell themselves it’s ok.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
girls were told to sit at last tournament as too many girls were on the bench and only some of us were able to dress. Unfair to all of us never knowing when this will happen until the day or so before a match we are told



Exactly, that's not cool. So how long are families going to put up with that? Doesn't sound like a good long term plan and obviously given the last post, there are families who aren't going to put up with that much longer.


Plenty of teams have large rosters but coaches manage the process better. Not telling players ahead of time who is or isn't playing is totally uncool. However, parents also need to do their due diligence ahead of time. Know that if they are accepting a spot on a large roster that PT issues will almost always arise. It you're not confident your player is a starter or at least a first sub in, you should seriously consider other options here more PT is assured.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
girls were told to sit at last tournament as too many girls were on the bench and only some of us were able to dress. Unfair to all of us never knowing when this will happen until the day or so before a match we are told



Exactly, that's not cool. So how long are families going to put up with that? Doesn't sound like a good long term plan and obviously given the last post, there are families who aren't going to put up with that much longer.


Plenty of teams have large rosters but coaches manage the process better. Not telling players ahead of time who is or isn't playing is totally uncool. However, parents also need to do their due diligence ahead of time. Know that if they are accepting a spot on a large roster that PT issues will almost always arise. It you're not confident your player is a starter or at least a first sub in, you should seriously consider other options here more PT is assured.


I would be interested to hear who manages it well.

I know Matchfit doesn’t. Currently 28 on the 06 ECNL roster. Girls show up at a practice one day and are rostered by the next weekend’s game leaving the current girls at home.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 12:59 PM

I think parents want their kids to have the status of being on an ECNL team like SUSA but it wonlt matter if they aren;t seen playing time is important when a college coach is watching. Sitting the bench the coach that comes to watch will wonder why they aren;t on the field.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 01:10 PM

That is 100% correct. Why sit the bench or risk not being rostered if the kid wants to play college soccer. you do NOT need ECNL next to your name to play at the next level. If you are top of the class, yes I agree if helps for sure, but if you are the bottom third of the ECNL(great accomplishment in itself) you are better off on another team playing the majority of the time. choose wisely.....
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 01:37 PM

Playing ECNL is not a guarantee you will get into a Division 1 school as people think. Playing any level soccer is an accolade with academics being the top choice.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 01:58 PM

Already looking elsewhwere. Hate the large rosters. It demeans the girl's efforts, causes anxiety if they are the ones told they cant play, a lot of time and money for girls who work hard. very hard, may not be the best ones but then put us on another team. Dont care about the name just let us play
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing ECNL is not a guarantee you will get into a Division 1 school as people think. Playing any level soccer is an accolade with academics being the top choice.


Great post. And let's be honest, at best most girls on long island that are "D 1 material" are really D 1 mid major players, like Stony Brook, Hofstra, etc., not UCA, UNC, etc., and for that, you definitely do not need ECNL, you need playing time. And please don't mistake my comment as demeaning mid major programs and their players, that is an absolutely AWESOME accomplishment for any kid who gets there. It's just the point as people have said here, to pay what SUSA for example charges and then have games where you don't even dress is just not smart.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing ECNL is not a guarantee you will get into a Division 1 school as people think. Playing any level soccer is an accolade with academics being the top choice.


Great post. And let's be honest, at best most girls on long island that are "D 1 material" are really D 1 mid major players, like Stony Brook, Hofstra, etc., not UCA, UNC, etc., and for that, you definitely do not need ECNL, you need playing time. And please don't mistake my comment as demeaning mid major programs and their players, that is an absolutely AWESOME accomplishment for any kid who gets there. It's just the point as people have said here, to pay what SUSA for example charges and then have games where you don't even dress is just not smart.



Agree, ECNL or DA is not needed to play college. Came from NPL program with great trainer and outstanding team. Every player on roster is playing in college, 10 D1, 4 D2, 6 D3. That’s 20 players from 1 team. Being on a good team does help and having a coach/trainer with college connections and reputation makes all the difference in the world.
Posted By: Larry Miller

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing ECNL is not a guarantee you will get into a Division 1 school as people think. Playing any level soccer is an accolade with academics being the top choice.


Great post. And let's be honest, at best most girls on long island that are "D 1 material" are really D 1 mid major players, like Stony Brook, Hofstra, etc., not UCA, UNC, etc., and for that, you definitely do not need ECNL, you need playing time. And please don't mistake my comment as demeaning mid major programs and their players, that is an absolutely AWESOME accomplishment for any kid who gets there. It's just the point as people have said here, to pay what SUSA for example charges and then have games where you don't even dress is just not smart.



Agree, ECNL or DA is not needed to play college. Came from NPL program with great trainer and outstanding team. Every player on roster is playing in college, 10 D1, 4 D2, 6 D3. That’s 20 players from 1 team. Being on a good team does help and having a coach/trainer with college connections and reputation makes all the difference in the world.


That's quite a statement, which poses the questions what team, what schools, and who is the great trainer?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing ECNL is not a guarantee you will get into a Division 1 school as people think. Playing any level soccer is an accolade with academics being the top choice.


Great post. And let's be honest, at best most girls on long island that are "D 1 material" are really D 1 mid major players, like Stony Brook, Hofstra, etc., not UCA, UNC, etc., and for that, you definitely do not need ECNL, you need playing time. And please don't mistake my comment as demeaning mid major programs and their players, that is an absolutely AWESOME accomplishment for any kid who gets there. It's just the point as people have said here, to pay what SUSA for example charges and then have games where you don't even dress is just not smart.



Agree, ECNL or DA is not needed to play college. Came from NPL program with great trainer and outstanding team. Every player on roster is playing in college, 10 D1, 4 D2, 6 D3. That’s 20 players from 1 team. Being on a good team does help and having a coach/trainer with college connections and reputation makes all the difference in the world.


That's quite a statement, which poses the questions what team, what schools, and who is the great trainer?

Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing ECNL is not a guarantee you will get into a Division 1 school as people think. Playing any level soccer is an accolade with academics being the top choice.


Great post. And let's be honest, at best most girls on long island that are "D 1 material" are really D 1 mid major players, like Stony Brook, Hofstra, etc., not UCA, UNC, etc., and for that, you definitely do not need ECNL, you need playing time. And please don't mistake my comment as demeaning mid major programs and their players, that is an absolutely AWESOME accomplishment for any kid who gets there. It's just the point as people have said here, to pay what SUSA for example charges and then have games where you don't even dress is just not smart.



Agree, ECNL or DA is not needed to play college. Came from NPL program with great trainer and outstanding team. Every player on roster is playing in college, 10 D1, 4 D2, 6 D3. That’s 20 players from 1 team. Being on a good team does help and having a coach/trainer with college connections and reputation makes all the difference in the world.


That's quite a statement, which poses the questions what team, what schools, and who is the great trainer?



Quickstrike FC

Notre Dame
U Conn multiple
Sacred Heart
Albany
Pace
George Mason
Siena
Scranton
Miserocordia
SUNY Cortlandt
Etc...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 03:53 PM



Plenty of teams have large rosters but coaches manage the process better. Not telling players ahead of time who is or isn't playing is totally uncool. However, parents also need to do their due diligence ahead of time. Know that if they are accepting a spot on a large roster that PT issues will almost always arise. It you're not confident your player is a starter or at least a first sub in, you should seriously consider other options here more PT is assured.
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And one of those options is NOT Fury DA.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing ECNL is not a guarantee you will get into a Division 1 school as people think. Playing any level soccer is an accolade with academics being the top choice.


Great post. And let's be honest, at best most girls on long island that are "D 1 material" are really D 1 mid major players, like Stony Brook, Hofstra, etc., not UCA, UNC, etc., and for that, you definitely do not need ECNL, you need playing time. And please don't mistake my comment as demeaning mid major programs and their players, that is an absolutely AWESOME accomplishment for any kid who gets there. It's just the point as people have said here, to pay what SUSA for example charges and then have games where you don't even dress is just not smart.



Agree, ECNL or DA is not needed to play college. Came from NPL program with great trainer and outstanding team. Every player on roster is playing in college, 10 D1, 4 D2, 6 D3. That’s 20 players from 1 team. Being on a good team does help and having a coach/trainer with college connections and reputation makes all the difference in the world.


What Npl team / program. Looking to leave DA. Don’t like all the extra travel.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous


Plenty of teams have large rosters but coaches manage the process better. Not telling players ahead of time who is or isn't playing is totally uncool. However, parents also need to do their due diligence ahead of time. Know that if they are accepting a spot on a large roster that PT issues will almost always arise. It you're not confident your player is a starter or at least a first sub in, you should seriously consider other options here more PT is assured.

And one of those options is NOT Fury DA. [/quote]

You people need to get your stories straight. Many of us are not from LI and don’t get the real info.

One day the complaint is that fury can’t field a team, the next day is that there are too many on the roster. Who do you trust if you can’t trust a rumor site?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It would be good for clubs like SUSA that carry 22 plus per roster. NOthing like going to a game and being told you can;t play because to many are here. Maybe with a 2 more teams you may get playing time.



How long can SUSA even sustain the whole 22 player per roster model? Families are paying way too much money to get little to no playing time. At some point, these families will look elsewhere.


How much time it will take for everyone here to realize that THIS IS ECNL BUSINESS MODEL. 22 player is lucky. Most team have 26-28 players and parents and kids love the extra competitiveness. Results are better than GDA because of this added edge.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 08:35 PM

Then they play for 5 minutes get subbed and are out for the rest of the half
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 10:45 PM

I heard WC 06G is trying to field
(2) ECNL
(0) ECNL
(1) ECNL RL

What team distribution is possible?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/29/19 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It would be good for clubs like SUSA that carry 22 plus per roster. NOthing like going to a game and being told you can;t play because to many are here. Maybe with a 2 more teams you may get playing time.



How long can SUSA even sustain the whole 22 player per roster model? Families are paying way too much money to get little to no playing time. At some point, these families will look elsewhere.


How much time it will take for everyone here to realize that THIS IS ECNL BUSINESS MODEL. 22 player is lucky. Most team have 26-28 players and parents and kids love the extra competitiveness. Results are better than GDA because of this added edge.


Stupid model for the feeble minded. Parents and kid da without a clue love this
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/30/19 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It would be good for clubs like SUSA that carry 22 plus per roster. NOthing like going to a game and being told you can;t play because to many are here. Maybe with a 2 more teams you may get playing time.



How long can SUSA even sustain the whole 22 player per roster model? Families are paying way too much money to get little to no playing time. At some point, these families will look elsewhere.


How much time it will take for everyone here to realize that THIS IS ECNL BUSINESS MODEL. 22 player is lucky. Most team have 26-28 players and parents and kids love the extra competitiveness. Results are better than GDA because of this added edge.


A, this statement isn't true, and B, you must be a real moron if you think people are going to believe that parents and kids love this "business model"
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/30/19 04:12 PM

19/20 season

ECNL = ECNL
ECNL2 = NPL
ECNL RL = EDP
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/30/19 06:44 PM

There isn't ECNL2. This is what ECNL was rumored to be - a place for the current NE NPL teams to play under the ECNL umbrella. Many other areas don't have this set up; TX experimented with it last year and they liked it. No doubt they will roll it out elsewhere in the future.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/30/19 07:07 PM

If a club has 2 ECNL teams can they have just 1 ECNL RL?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/31/19 06:17 PM

WC told told its current parents they will have 2:1 ECNL/RL also same as PDA and FC.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 03/31/19 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
WC told told its current parents they will have 2:1 ECNL/RL also same as PDA and FC.

Umm no they didn’t. They said they would have an ECNL and a ECNL Regional.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/01/19 01:04 AM

It's a joke. ECNL teams with players crying on the field getting most playing time. Its all corrupt, parents do your own home work and ID camps. It will get you much further........
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/01/19 01:31 AM

I am guessing a susa team as I have seen it before
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/01/19 06:32 PM

So kids can’t cry when they get hurt?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/01/19 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
WC told told its current parents they will have 2:1 ECNL/RL also same as PDA and FC.

PDA North will field 2 ECNL Teams. PDA South will field a ECNL Regional League Team. Not clear on what happens with PDA North's current NPL teams.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/01/19 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
So kids can’t cry when they get hurt?

Didn't say when they get hurt. When things don't go their way and they are playing bad.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/01/19 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WC told told its current parents they will have 2:1 ECNL/RL also same as PDA and FC.

PDA North will field 2 ECNL Teams. PDA South will field a ECNL Regional League Team. Not clear on what happens with PDA North's current NPL teams.


This doesnt make sense. SUSA is sweeping every team out there...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/01/19 11:08 PM

What hell are you talking about? SUSA is sweeping every team out there?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/03/19 05:15 AM

That must be SUSA 2003
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/03/19 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
That must be SUSA 2003



Um, no, they're not sweeping anything. But back to the original question, what is the poster talking about when they said "SUSA is sweeping every team out there"?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/04/19 01:47 AM

Is it too much to ask for ECNL to build a mobile friendly site. With all this money it’s the least they could do
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/04/19 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That must be SUSA 2003



Um, no, they're not sweeping anything. But back to the original question, what is the poster talking about when they said "SUSA is sweeping every team out there"?


#4 in the country. Will play against #1
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/04/19 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That must be SUSA 2003



Um, no, they're not sweeping anything. But back to the original question, what is the poster talking about when they said "SUSA is sweeping every team out there"?


#4 in the country. Will play against #1



#4 in the country as per what? Got soccer? Have we not learned that those rankings are often useless. There are plenty of teams that enter 1000 tournaments per year just to grab points but aren't very good and then there are teams that only participate in a few tournaments per year, have very little points and are thus ranked 300-400 but then you play them and they're monsters. So this means nothing.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/04/19 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That must be SUSA 2003



Um, no, they're not sweeping anything. But back to the original question, what is the poster talking about when they said "SUSA is sweeping every team out there"?


#4 in the country. Will play against #1



#4 in the country as per what? Got soccer? Have we not learned that those rankings are often useless. There are plenty of teams that enter 1000 tournaments per year just to grab points but aren't very good and then there are teams that only participate in a few tournaments per year, have very little points and are thus ranked 300-400 but then you play them and they're monsters. So this means nothing.

Definitely Directional... That being said, what teams outside the top 100 are monsters?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/04/19 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That must be SUSA 2003



Um, no, they're not sweeping anything. But back to the original question, what is the poster talking about when they said "SUSA is sweeping every team out there"?


#4 in the country. Will play against #1



#4 in the country as per what? Got soccer? Have we not learned that those rankings are often useless. There are plenty of teams that enter 1000 tournaments per year just to grab points but aren't very good and then there are teams that only participate in a few tournaments per year, have very little points and are thus ranked 300-400 but then you play them and they're monsters. So this means nothing.


You are absolutely correct! Got Soccer rankings are completely worthless. However, it's the SUSA recruiting model which leave parents scratching their heads when they kid plays a supposedly low ranked team who hands them a butt whipping.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/04/19 07:05 PM

Youthsoccerrankings.com

Takes into account 3 factors:
- strength of competition
- goal difference
- relative aging of the game (how many months ago game occurred)

It has its flaws, but same algorithm as used for many pro sports.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/04/19 10:54 PM

Are you talking about young girls or older?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/06/19 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Youthsoccerrankings.com

Takes into account 3 factors:
- strength of competition
- goal difference
- relative aging of the game (how many months ago game occurred)

It has its flaws, but same algorithm as used for many pro sports.


So how'd you do against #57? Draw. How about #97? Loss. So you still think you're #4?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/08/19 07:02 PM

any updates/rumors on when ECNL will announce the new girls teams admitted for 2019-20 season.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/08/19 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Youthsoccerrankings.com

Takes into account 3 factors:
- strength of competition
- goal difference
- relative aging of the game (how many months ago game occurred)

It has its flaws, but same algorithm as used for many pro sports.


So how'd you do against #57? Draw. How about #97? Loss. So you still think you're #4?


If you are talking about SUSA '03 they are 14 not 1 or 4 and Gotsoccer means nothing now. they are a solid team either way.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/08/19 09:02 PM

How did the LI teams do in CT this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/08/19 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the LI teams do in CT this weekend?


the internet is your friend http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/northeast-schedule-2018-19/
Posted By: Larry Miller

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/08/19 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the LI teams do in CT this weekend?


the internet is your friend http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/northeast-schedule-2018-19/


All of these links are on BOTN. either on top or down the left side...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/08/19 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Youthsoccerrankings.com

Takes into account 3 factors:
- strength of competition
- goal difference
- relative aging of the game (how many months ago game occurred)

It has its flaws, but same algorithm as used for many pro sports.


So how'd you do against #57? Draw. How about #97? Loss. So you still think you're #4?


If you are talking about SUSA '03 they are 14 not 1 or 4 and Gotsoccer means nothing now. they are a solid team either way.


Reading is fundamental....no one is talking about Gotsoccer but you.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/08/19 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Youthsoccerrankings.com

Takes into account 3 factors:
- strength of competition
- goal difference
- relative aging of the game (how many months ago game occurred)

It has its flaws, but same algorithm as used for many pro sports.


So how'd you do against #57? Draw. How about #97? Loss. So you still think you're #4?


If you are talking about SUSA '03 they are 14 not 1 or 4 and Gotsoccer means nothing now. they are a solid team either way.


Reading is fundamental....no one is talking about Gotsoccer but you.


maybe you better read than.... see the post from above...tool

#4 in the country as per what? Got soccer? Have we not learned that those rankings are often useless. There are plenty of teams that enter 1000 tournaments per year just to grab points but aren't very good and then there are teams that only participate in a few tournaments per year, have very little points and are thus ranked 300-400 but then you play them and they're monsters. So this means nothing.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/09/19 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Youthsoccerrankings.com

Takes into account 3 factors:
- strength of competition
- goal difference
- relative aging of the game (how many months ago game occurred)

It has its flaws, but same algorithm as used for many pro sports.


So how'd you do against #57? Draw. How about #97? Loss. So you still think you're #4?

If you are talking about SUSA '03 they are 14 not 1 or 4 and Gotsoccer means nothing now. they are a solid team either way.


Reading is fundamental....no one is talking about Gotsoccer but you.


maybe you better read than.... see the post from above...tool

#4 in the country as per what? Got soccer? Have we not learned that those rankings are often useless. There are plenty of teams that enter 1000 tournaments per year just to grab points but aren't very good and then there are teams that only participate in a few tournaments per year, have very little points and are thus ranked 300-400 but then you play them and they're monsters. So this means nothing.


Ok we will try again. Only a couple clueless morons think we are talking about gotsoccer. Why don't you kiddies go in the back yard and play while the adults are speaking.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 11:01 AM

For most clubs, where is ECNL Regional team coming from? Will these clubs hold tryouts or just rename their NPL teams?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
For most clubs, where is ECNL Regional team coming from? Will these clubs hold tryouts or just rename their NPL teams?


And what about clubs that have two ecnl teams, will they now be ECNL National and regional, or will they continue to have two ECNL National teams and add a regional?
Is there a guideline or rule for how many teams can exist in each for a single club?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
For most clubs, where is ECNL Regional team coming from? Will these clubs hold tryouts or just rename their NPL teams?


Probably both. WC announced that its NPL teams would be moved to ECNL RL. And at the same time, they will hold tryouts for players interested in joining those teams. Can't imagine other ECNL clubs wouldn't do the same, as NE NPL disappears with the creation of ECNL RL.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
For most clubs, where is ECNL Regional team coming from? Will these clubs hold tryouts or just rename their NPL teams?


Looks like you didn't read any prior posts. It's just a rebranding of the current NE NPL teams. How the clubs decide to roster those teams is up to them but don't expect many changes.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For most clubs, where is ECNL Regional team coming from? Will these clubs hold tryouts or just rename their NPL teams?


Probably both. WC announced that its NPL teams would be moved to ECNL RL. And at the same time, they will hold tryouts for players interested in joining those teams. Can't imagine other ECNL clubs wouldn't do the same, as NE NPL disappears with the creation of ECNL RL.


I thought NYCFC DA was becoming the ECNL team and the current ECNL team was becoming the regional team - with minimal movement. Heard most NPL players were told they wouldn’t have a spot on regional.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 04:00 PM

Yes and no. there are a large number of NYCFC girls who have zero interest in playing high school soccer and are staying in the DA with either NY Soccer Club or Albertsons.

Kaz is trying to sort through who is staying and who is going but from what I hear seems that the majority are leaving.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes and no. there are a large number of NYCFC girls who have zero interest in playing high school soccer and are staying in the DA with either NY Soccer Club or Albertsons.

Kaz is trying to sort through who is staying and who is going but from what I hear seems that the majority are leaving.


How many DA players will stay with him? Sounds like big changes for clubs in the area
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes and no. there are a large number of NYCFC girls who have zero interest in playing high school soccer and are staying in the DA with either NY Soccer Club or Albertsons.

Kaz is trying to sort through who is staying and who is going but from what I hear seems that the majority are leaving.


Look, there is much misinformation, don't buy what that poster is selling, particularly an anonymous poster. How many families are willing to drive 1 1/2 to 2 hours during rush hour to get from Rockland to LI. If they do, they are loco!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For most clubs, where is ECNL Regional team coming from? Will these clubs hold tryouts or just rename their NPL teams?


Probably both. WC announced that its NPL teams would be moved to ECNL RL. And at the same time, they will hold tryouts for players interested in joining those teams. Can't imagine other ECNL clubs wouldn't do the same, as NE NPL disappears with the creation of ECNL RL.


I thought NYCFC DA was becoming the ECNL team and the current ECNL team was becoming the regional team - with minimal movement. Heard most NPL players were told they wouldn’t have a spot on regional.


From the WC website: http://www.wcsocceracademy.org/wcfc-girls-teams-join-new-ecnl-regional-league

"World Class FC is pleased to announce its current Girls NPL teams will join the new ECNL Regional League for the 2019/20 Season"
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes and no. there are a large number of NYCFC girls who have zero interest in playing high school soccer and are staying in the DA with either NY Soccer Club or Albertsons.

Kaz is trying to sort through who is staying and who is going but from what I hear seems that the majority are leaving.


Look, there is much misinformation, don't buy what that poster is selling, particularly an anonymous poster. How many families are willing to drive 1 1/2 to 2 hours during rush hour to get from Rockland to LI. If they do, they are loco!


Agreed that’s a long drive, how many are coming from Rockland though? Anyone have first hand info on how many are staying?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For most clubs, where is ECNL Regional team coming from? Will these clubs hold tryouts or just rename their NPL teams?


Probably both. WC announced that its NPL teams would be moved to ECNL RL. And at the same time, they will hold tryouts for players interested in joining those teams. Can't imagine other ECNL clubs wouldn't do the same, as NE NPL disappears with the creation of ECNL RL.


I thought NYCFC DA was becoming the ECNL team and the current ECNL team was becoming the regional team - with minimal movement. Heard most NPL players were told they wouldn’t have a spot on regional.


From the WC website: http://www.wcsocceracademy.org/wcfc-girls-teams-join-new-ecnl-regional-league

"World Class FC is pleased to announce its current Girls NPL teams will join the new ECNL Regional League for the 2019/20 Season"


So which is really happening- what’s on the website, or what WC is telling it’s players?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For most clubs, where is ECNL Regional team coming from? Will these clubs hold tryouts or just rename their NPL teams?


Probably both. WC announced that its NPL teams would be moved to ECNL RL. And at the same time, they will hold tryouts for players interested in joining those teams. Can't imagine other ECNL clubs wouldn't do the same, as NE NPL disappears with the creation of ECNL RL.


I thought NYCFC DA was becoming the ECNL team and the current ECNL team was becoming the regional team - with minimal movement. Heard most NPL players were told they wouldn’t have a spot on regional.


From the WC website: http://www.wcsocceracademy.org/wcfc-girls-teams-join-new-ecnl-regional-league

"World Class FC is pleased to announce its current Girls NPL teams will join the new ECNL Regional League for the 2019/20 Season"


The 'team' might be joining, just not with the same girls on it.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/17/19 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For most clubs, where is ECNL Regional team coming from? Will these clubs hold tryouts or just rename their NPL teams?


Probably both. WC announced that its NPL teams would be moved to ECNL RL. And at the same time, they will hold tryouts for players interested in joining those teams. Can't imagine other ECNL clubs wouldn't do the same, as NE NPL disappears with the creation of ECNL RL.


I thought NYCFC DA was becoming the ECNL team and the current ECNL team was becoming the regional team - with minimal movement. Heard most NPL players were told they wouldn’t have a spot on regional.


From the WC website: http://www.wcsocceracademy.org/wcfc-girls-teams-join-new-ecnl-regional-league

"World Class FC is pleased to announce its current Girls NPL teams will join the new ECNL Regional League for the 2019/20 Season"


So which is really happening- what’s on the website, or what WC is telling it’s players?


The 02 NPL team has been told that with the exception of possibly adding a GK that they will become the ECNL RL team without any roster changes (unless some players decide not to come back on their own). Not sure about the other age groups.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/18/19 03:11 AM

Hey idiot buy what I am selling. Take a look at the u17 team, a team I know very well.

There are exactly two girls from Rockland County on that team out of 16 rostered. 3 from Westchester, 1 each from Manhattan, Connecticut and Long Island and 8 from New Jersey. I do not know about the other age groups but I know for a fact that at least 8 of those girls are most likely not returning to World Class as it stands today.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/18/19 11:03 AM

Thoughts on the level of college exposure ECNL Regional will get? Obviously expect less than National or DA. Will it be more than regular NPL team?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 11:44 AM

Anyone know which clubs are just renaming NPL teams, and which clubs are forming an ECNL Regional aiming to be more competitive than NPL?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know which clubs are just renaming NPL teams, and which clubs are forming an ECNL Regional aiming to be more competitive than NPL?

Anyone care?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know which clubs are just renaming NPL teams, and which clubs are forming an ECNL Regional aiming to be more competitive than NPL?

Anyone care?


You are reading a forum about these changes - why are you here if you don’t care? Must not have much else going on, huh.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Probably both. WC announced that its NPL teams would be moved to ECNL RL. And at the same time, they will hold tryouts for players interested in joining those teams. Can't imagine other ECNL clubs wouldn't do the same, as NE NPL disappears with the creation of ECNL RL.


I thought NYCFC DA was becoming the ECNL team and the current ECNL team was becoming the regional team - with minimal movement. Heard most NPL players were told they wouldn’t have a spot on regional.


From the WC website: http://www.wcsocceracademy.org/wcfc-girls-teams-join-new-ecnl-regional-league

"World Class FC is pleased to announce its current Girls NPL teams will join the new ECNL Regional League for the 2019/20 Season"


So which is really happening- what’s on the website, or what WC is telling it’s players?


The 02 NPL team has been told that with the exception of possibly adding a GK that they will become the ECNL RL team without any roster changes (unless some players decide not to come back on their own). Not sure about the other age groups.


That is probably true because NYCFC only has 2 girls from 2002 on the roster. Not the case in any other age groups.

Other age groups will end up playing in Northern Counties.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know which clubs are just renaming NPL teams, and which clubs are forming an ECNL Regional aiming to be more competitive than NPL?

Anyone care?


The leadership of NYCSL and NE NPL is inquiring on behalf of their friends.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey idiot buy what I am selling. Take a look at the u17 team, a team I know very well.

There are exactly two girls from Rockland County on that team out of 16 rostered. 3 from Westchester, 1 each from Manhattan, Connecticut and Long Island and 8 from New Jersey. I do not know about the other age groups but I know for a fact that at least 8 of those girls are most likely not returning to World Class as it stands today.


You're talking about the WC NPL 02 team? If so, I'm not sure where you get your information from. That team has 17 rostered: 8 from Rockland, 6 from NJ, 2 from Orange County, 1 from Westchester. 4 of the NJ players live within 10 minutes of Orangeburg, and another has 2 siblings also at the club. Most of the players have been with this team for 4-5 years.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know which clubs are just renaming NPL teams, and which clubs are forming an ECNL Regional aiming to be more competitive than NPL?


I'm sure all of these clubs aim to build the most competitive team they can regardless of whether it is called NPL or ECNL-RL.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

So which is really happening- what’s on the website, or what WC is telling it’s players?


The 02 NPL team has been told that with the exception of possibly adding a GK that they will become the ECNL RL team without any roster changes (unless some players decide not to come back on their own). Not sure about the other age groups.


That is probably true because NYCFC only has 2 girls from 2002 on the roster. Not the case in any other age groups.

Other age groups will end up playing in Northern Counties.


I doubt they would play Northern Counties. Most "3rd Teams" at WC play some level at EDP once they get above U11.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 05:32 PM

My bad. Two people care.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
My bad. Two people care.


Still here, such a sad life.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

So which is really happening- what’s on the website, or what WC is telling it’s players?


The 02 NPL team has been told that with the exception of possibly adding a GK that they will become the ECNL RL team without any roster changes (unless some players decide not to come back on their own). Not sure about the other age groups.


That is probably true because NYCFC only has 2 girls from 2002 on the roster. Not the case in any other age groups.

Other age groups will end up playing in Northern Counties.


I doubt they would play Northern Counties. Most "3rd Teams" at WC play some level at EDP once they get above U11.


So WC will have an NPL or EDP in addition to the two ECNL teams?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 04/27/19 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

So which is really happening- what’s on the website, or what WC is telling it’s players?


The 02 NPL team has been told that with the exception of possibly adding a GK that they will become the ECNL RL team without any roster changes (unless some players decide not to come back on their own). Not sure about the other age groups.


That is probably true because NYCFC only has 2 girls from 2002 on the roster. Not the case in any other age groups.

Other age groups will end up playing in Northern Counties.


I doubt they would play Northern Counties. Most "3rd Teams" at WC play some level at EDP once they get above U11.


So WC will have an NPL or EDP in addition to the two ECNL teams?


At most age groups, WC will have 1 ECNL team and 1 ECNL-RL team. If there are enough girls at a particular age who would like to stay at WC for another team, they would play in one of the EDP leagues. For example, last year they had a U17 EDP team made up of 01/02 players who did not make their ECNL or NPL teams at those age groups.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 05/07/19 03:41 AM

What’s the latest on WC?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 05/07/19 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s the latest on WC?


They played some games this past weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 05/07/19 12:46 PM

Anybody trust JG regarding EM's ECRL? Is he a good trainer / college resource?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 05/07/19 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody trust JG regarding EM's ECRL? Is he a good trainer / college resource?

Just search his name through BOTN and read for yourself. If you are researching on trust, can you really trust any coach out here in LI? Everyone one of them talks the game and makes promises which they can't keep just to get your $$$$$. Find out first how many players he has helped reach their school of choice, how many has he placed?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/14/19 09:15 PM

Just last week we had a tournament (SUSA) and there were only 2 subs on a 22 girl team.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/14/19 09:40 PM

Last week was ACT exams so maybe they were taking their test or they all are leaving think what you want.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody trust JG regarding EM's ECRL? Is he a good trainer / college resource?

Just search his name through BOTN and read for yourself. If you are researching on trust, can you really trust any coach out here in LI? Everyone one of them talks the game and makes promises which they can't keep just to get your $$$$$. Find out first how many players he has helped reach their school of choice, how many has he placed?



LOL ....college resource?!?!?!? Sweetie this nothing more than a money grabber. If ur kid isn’t playing ECNL then you need NOT worry about a college resource for “ECRL” which is ECNL “B” teams. Great marketing ploy as there will always be dumb parents willing to pay for this nonsense. Hilarious!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody trust JG regarding EM's ECRL? Is he a good trainer / college resource?

Just search his name through BOTN and read for yourself. If you are researching on trust, can you really trust any coach out here in LI? Everyone one of them talks the game and makes promises which they can't keep just to get your $$$$$. Find out first how many players he has helped reach their school of choice, how many has he placed?



LOL ....college resource?!?!?!? Sweetie this nothing more than a money grabber. If ur kid isn’t playing ECNL then you need NOT worry about a college resource for “ECRL” which is ECNL “B” teams. Great marketing ploy as there will always be dumb parents willing to pay for this nonsense. Hilarious!!


So the only way a kid will play in college is playing for ECNL team? Bless your heart.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody trust JG regarding EM's ECRL? Is he a good trainer / college resource?

Just search his name through BOTN and read for yourself. If you are researching on trust, can you really trust any coach out here in LI? Everyone one of them talks the game and makes promises which they can't keep just to get your $$$$$. Find out first how many players he has helped reach their school of choice, how many has he placed?



LOL ....college resource?!?!?!? Sweetie this nothing more than a money grabber. If ur kid isn’t playing ECNL then you need NOT worry about a college resource for “ECRL” which is ECNL “B” teams. Great marketing ploy as there will always be dumb parents willing to pay for this nonsense. Hilarious!!


So the only way a kid will play in college is playing for ECNL team? Bless your heart.


Not the only way, but it certainly makes the process easier! Last year my kid played NPL and this year ECNL, the level of exposure (along with the level of game intensity) is very different and that's really been the difference maker.
This year my kid has had a minimum of 3-4 college coaches at every league game, just regular league games. Showcases, they show up in droves. Every single coach that she has reached out to has shown up to see her, many have expressed interest...some have not. Knowing who is interested and who is not helps her determine what ID Clinics and schools she will visit this summer.
When my kid shows up to the ID Clinic, she will already be on their radar, the coaches have already seen her play and have notes on her, what they want to explore further, how she plays with/against players 4 years her senior, how she plays with/against other players they're interested in, etc. As opposed to randomly going to an ID Clinic and trying to get their attention and stand out in a sea of 50 other players.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody trust JG regarding EM's ECRL? Is he a good trainer / college resource?

Just search his name through BOTN and read for yourself. If you are researching on trust, can you really trust any coach out here in LI? Everyone one of them talks the game and makes promises which they can't keep just to get your $$$$$. Find out first how many players he has helped reach their school of choice, how many has he placed?



LOL ....college resource?!?!?!? Sweetie this nothing more than a money grabber. If ur kid isn’t playing ECNL then you need NOT worry about a college resource for “ECRL” which is ECNL “B” teams. Great marketing ploy as there will always be dumb parents willing to pay for this nonsense. Hilarious!!


So the only way a kid will play in college is playing for ECNL team? Bless your heart.


Not the only way, but it certainly makes the process easier! Last year my kid played NPL and this year ECNL, the level of exposure (along with the level of game intensity) is very different and that's really been the difference maker.
This year my kid has had a minimum of 3-4 college coaches at every league game, just regular league games. Showcases, they show up in droves. Every single coach that she has reached out to has shown up to see her, many have expressed interest...some have not. Knowing who is interested and who is not helps her determine what ID Clinics and schools she will visit this summer.
When my kid shows up to the ID Clinic, she will already be on their radar, the coaches have already seen her play and have notes on her, what they want to explore further, how she plays with/against players 4 years her senior, how she plays with/against other players they're interested in, etc. As opposed to randomly going to an ID Clinic and trying to get their attention and stand out in a sea of 50 other players.



If they show up for league game it's for a specific player not the whole team, my kid played ECNL and it's still comes done to the player ability and prior contact. And to be transparent the coaches come in droves to many showcases, ECNL or otherwise. Don't assume those notes on your kid are all positive, a coach coming to a game can also decrease her chances with that school.ENCL helps the average player, a top player in NPL, EDP or whatever will get looks no matter where she plays.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 04:18 PM

If they show up for league game it's for a specific player not the whole team, my kid played ECNL and it's still comes done to the player ability and prior contact. And to be transparent the coaches come in droves to many showcases, ECNL or otherwise. Don't assume those notes on your kid are all positive, a coach coming to a game can also decrease her chances with that school.ENCL helps the average player, a top player in NPL, EDP or whatever will get looks no matter where she plays. [/quote]

I can only speak from my kid's experience and all I'm saying is the experience is very different. No team in her club had college coaches coming to their league games in NPL like they do in ECNL. I am shocked at the level of program that shows up to see her play.
I feel like you're trying to spin my comments-all notes on my kid have been constructive and positive, the lack of interest from other schools has also been helpful. And here's the real whopper-unsolicited interest is NOT a unicorn fantasy. Several schools that my daughter did not initiate interest in have expressed interest in her...it's really been an interesting year! It wasn't like this in NPL and she was on a really good team.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody trust JG regarding EM's ECRL? Is he a good trainer / college resource?

Just search his name through BOTN and read for yourself. If you are researching on trust, can you really trust any coach out here in LI? Everyone one of them talks the game and makes promises which they can't keep just to get your $$$$$. Find out first how many players he has helped reach their school of choice, how many has he placed?



LOL ....college resource?!?!?!? Sweetie this nothing more than a money grabber. If ur kid isn’t playing ECNL then you need NOT worry about a college resource for “ECRL” which is ECNL “B” teams. Great marketing ploy as there will always be dumb parents willing to pay for this nonsense. Hilarious!!


So the only way a kid will play in college is playing for ECNL team? Bless your heart.


Not the only way, but it certainly makes the process easier! Last year my kid played NPL and this year ECNL, the level of exposure (along with the level of game intensity) is very different and that's really been the difference maker.
This year my kid has had a minimum of 3-4 college coaches at every league game, just regular league games. Showcases, they show up in droves. Every single coach that she has reached out to has shown up to see her, many have expressed interest...some have not. Knowing who is interested and who is not helps her determine what ID Clinics and schools she will visit this summer.
When my kid shows up to the ID Clinic, she will already be on their radar, the coaches have already seen her play and have notes on her, what they want to explore further, how she plays with/against players 4 years her senior, how she plays with/against other players they're interested in, etc. As opposed to randomly going to an ID Clinic and trying to get their attention and stand out in a sea of 50 other players.






Another delusional parent.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody trust JG regarding EM's ECRL? Is he a good trainer / college resource?

Just search his name through BOTN and read for yourself. If you are researching on trust, can you really trust any coach out here in LI? Everyone one of them talks the game and makes promises which they can't keep just to get your $$$$$. Find out first how many players he has helped reach their school of choice, how many has he placed?



LOL ....college resource?!?!?!? Sweetie this nothing more than a money grabber. If ur kid isn’t playing ECNL then you need NOT worry about a college resource for “ECRL” which is ECNL “B” teams. Great marketing ploy as there will always be dumb parents willing to pay for this nonsense. Hilarious!!


So the only way a kid will play in college is playing for ECNL team? Bless your heart.


Jackass the point is that ECRL is a feeder to ECNL, I don’t believe the point was it’s the only way to get in but the point was a I don’t think you will have any college recruiters going to B games when they can go to ECNL to see the A team play. So bless your heart for being dumb!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 06:34 PM




LOL ....college resource?!?!?!? Sweetie this nothing more than a money grabber. If ur kid isn’t playing ECNL then you need NOT worry about a college resource for “ECRL” which is ECNL “B” teams. Great marketing ploy as there will always be dumb parents willing to pay for this nonsense. Hilarious!![/quote]

So the only way a kid will play in college is playing for ECNL team? Bless your heart. [/quote]

Jackass the point is that ECRL is a feeder to ECNL, I don’t believe the point was it’s the only way to get in but the point was a I don’t think you will have any college recruiters going to B games when they can go to ECNL to see the A team play. So bless your heart for being dumb!![/quote]







Talk about hook line and sinker...... your the type of fish who will just jump in the boat before it even leaves the dock ! with that first sentence.
“ECRL is a feeder to ECNL” really ? What a sucker .... and then you tell someone else about being dumb.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
If they show up for league game it's for a specific player not the whole team, my kid played ECNL and it's still comes done to the player ability and prior contact. And to be transparent the coaches come in droves to many showcases, ECNL or otherwise. Don't assume those notes on your kid are all positive, a coach coming to a game can also decrease her chances with that school.ENCL helps the average player, a top player in NPL, EDP or whatever will get looks no matter where she plays.


I can only speak from my kid's experience and all I'm saying is the experience is very different. No team in her club had college coaches coming to their league games in NPL like they do in ECNL. I am shocked at the level of program that shows up to see her play.
I feel like you're trying to spin my comments-all notes on my kid have been constructive and positive, the lack of interest from other schools has also been helpful. And here's the real whopper-unsolicited interest is NOT a unicorn fantasy. Several schools that my daughter did not initiate interest in have expressed interest in her...it's really been an interesting year! It wasn't like this in NPL and she was on a really good team.[/quote]

You're forgetting one key component which makes it so its not a fair comparison and that is that she's a year older and this closer to college. So you can't say that these coaches are solely coming now because she's ECNL and not NPL
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If they show up for league game it's for a specific player not the whole team, my kid played ECNL and it's still comes done to the player ability and prior contact. And to be transparent the coaches come in droves to many showcases, ECNL or otherwise. Don't assume those notes on your kid are all positive, a coach coming to a game can also decrease her chances with that school.ENCL helps the average player, a top player in NPL, EDP or whatever will get looks no matter where she plays.


I can only speak from my kid's experience and all I'm saying is the experience is very different. No team in her club had college coaches coming to their league games in NPL like they do in ECNL. I am shocked at the level of program that shows up to see her play.
I feel like you're trying to spin my comments-all notes on my kid have been constructive and positive, the lack of interest from other schools has also been helpful. And here's the real whopper-unsolicited interest is NOT a unicorn fantasy. Several schools that my daughter did not initiate interest in have expressed interest in her...it's really been an interesting year! It wasn't like this in NPL and she was on a really good team.


You're forgetting one key component which makes it so its not a fair comparison and that is that she's a year older and this closer to college. So you can't say that these coaches are solely coming now because she's ECNL and not NPL[/quote]

Except they're showing up to the games of the kids who are a year younger as well. It's just been very different. As I said before, it's just making the process easier.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/15/19 09:35 PM

My D plays for a NE NPL team (now ECNL-RL). She wants to play D3 soccer, and for this NE NPL has been great. Every college she has been interested in has come to see her play at Jeff Cup and PDA Showcase, and her team had over 75 coaches show up at her games at PDA. In her process, she has reached out to a couple of D1 schools, and admittedly they did not show up at her games, so perhaps there is some truth to D1 focusing more on ECNL players. But for D3, ECNL-RL seems like a great opportunity.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/17/19 01:47 PM

If you are put in the right tournaments and you do the work (have videos available, sending letters, staying in contact with coaches) they will come to your games. yes it matters what level you son or daughter plays but they can tell immediately by viewing a video first. If the video is not appealing, you will certainly drop on the "list" of games they want to attend. DO THE WORK!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/17/19 02:35 PM

FYI. The more important task is to know which 5 schools you are interested in for ACADEMICS. Reach out to those coaches early. Not always easy, especially if you didn't go to college or it's your first kid and you haven't done the college visits. Unless your kid is on the National Team, coaches don't come to games to recruit random players for their program. They come to games of kids who want to go to their school. Hopefully, soccer ability matches up with soccer program. If you have the grades for a D3, D2 and even low level D1, your daughter will get a spot on the roster. None of the coaches are there to pick up kids for their program if they haven't already been contacted about interest. PICK the School, not the Soccer Program. If you can get a couple of dollars, that's even better! Knew kids who got nothing but loved the team/coach and loved to play. Know kids who got some bucks (financial aid, grades, etc) and hated every minute of it! Disgusting process. Great when it works out. In the end, soccer and soccer pride/ego should take a back seat to getting the best education or the buck and a great fit all around for your daughter. Good Luck!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/17/19 05:27 PM

The above is a very good answer and is on point. Let me add that if a school is interested in your daughter they want to make sure they are a getting a student/athlete. The top programs in P5 Conferences will place heavy emphasis on the athlete but academics matter as well. They will not take average students with low test scores unless you are a 5 Star rated player. Schools if interested will then look at the players personality and see if they will add to the team chemistry. They will watch the player in warm ups as well as how she interacts with her teammates before and during the game. They have been known to stand on the parents sideline to watch the parents and see how they behave during the game. All these things matter; academics, behavior, coachable, character, good teammate.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/18/19 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI. The more important task is to know which 5 schools you are interested in for ACADEMICS. Reach out to those coaches early. Not always easy, especially if you didn't go to college or it's your first kid and you haven't done the college visits. Unless your kid is on the National Team, coaches don't come to games to recruit random players for their program. They come to games of kids who want to go to their school. Hopefully, soccer ability matches up with soccer program. If you have the grades for a D3, D2 and even low level D1, your daughter will get a spot on the roster. None of the coaches are there to pick up kids for their program if they haven't already been contacted about interest. PICK the School, not the Soccer Program. If you can get a couple of dollars, that's even better! Knew kids who got nothing but loved the team/coach and loved to play. Know kids who got some bucks (financial aid, grades, etc) and hated every minute of it! Disgusting process. Great when it works out. In the end, soccer and soccer pride/ego should take a back seat to getting the best education or the buck and a great fit all around for your daughter. Good Luck!


this response may resonate with some, but not me. Everyone is different and we really dont know what the "best" education is. Sure we can make some assumptions, but the educational differences between many of the schools is minor but quality of soccer massive. many people are judging academics on the basis of college rankings. what is the real difference between a school rated 100 or 150 . im betting minuscule. Im also betting that a lot depends on the major a kid chooses.

bottom line is, i would give the complete opposite advice. If you are a keen soccer player, then pick a range of schools and choose the best soccer fit - coach, facilities, team culture, etc. That assumes all else being equal - ie you can afford it etc etc.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/18/19 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI. The more important task is to know which 5 schools you are interested in for ACADEMICS. Reach out to those coaches early. Not always easy, especially if you didn't go to college or it's your first kid and you haven't done the college visits. Unless your kid is on the National Team, coaches don't come to games to recruit random players for their program. They come to games of kids who want to go to their school. Hopefully, soccer ability matches up with soccer program. If you have the grades for a D3, D2 and even low level D1, your daughter will get a spot on the roster. None of the coaches are there to pick up kids for their program if they haven't already been contacted about interest. PICK the School, not the Soccer Program. If you can get a couple of dollars, that's even better! Knew kids who got nothing but loved the team/coach and loved to play. Know kids who got some bucks (financial aid, grades, etc) and hated every minute of it! Disgusting process. Great when it works out. In the end, soccer and soccer pride/ego should take a back seat to getting the best education or the buck and a great fit all around for your daughter. Good Luck!


this response may resonate with some, but not me. Everyone is different and we really dont know what the "best" education is. Sure we can make some assumptions, but the educational differences between many of the schools is minor but quality of soccer massive. many people are judging academics on the basis of college rankings. what is the real difference between a school rated 100 or 150 . im betting minuscule. Im also betting that a lot depends on the major a kid chooses.

bottom line is, i would give the complete opposite advice. If you are a keen soccer player, then pick a range of schools and choose the best soccer fit - coach, facilities, team culture, etc. That assumes all else being equal - ie you can afford it etc etc.



and when soccer is all over you can drive a cement truck
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/18/19 02:25 PM

The cement truck line is priceless! Perfect answer!
Each year the highest percentage of student-athletes transferring out are those who put the athlete ahead of the student. Just reading that post from the person who said they really don’t know the best education & therefore would pick a school for soccer made me sad. The vast majority of freshman get very little playing time the first year. So if they picked a college not because of there education or even like the school other than the soccer program there is a higher probability that kid will be miserable and will want to leave that college for a college that they will play without regard to there education. I hope people read that post and be as sad as me for that parent and do the right thing and put the student ahead of the education.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/18/19 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI. The more important task is to know which 5 schools you are interested in for ACADEMICS. Reach out to those coaches early. Not always easy, especially if you didn't go to college or it's your first kid and you haven't done the college visits. Unless your kid is on the National Team, coaches don't come to games to recruit random players for their program. They come to games of kids who want to go to their school. Hopefully, soccer ability matches up with soccer program. If you have the grades for a D3, D2 and even low level D1, your daughter will get a spot on the roster. None of the coaches are there to pick up kids for their program if they haven't already been contacted about interest. PICK the School, not the Soccer Program. If you can get a couple of dollars, that's even better! Knew kids who got nothing but loved the team/coach and loved to play. Know kids who got some bucks (financial aid, grades, etc) and hated every minute of it! Disgusting process. Great when it works out. In the end, soccer and soccer pride/ego should take a back seat to getting the best education or the buck and a great fit all around for your daughter. Good Luck!


this response may resonate with some, but not me. Everyone is different and we really dont know what the "best" education is. Sure we can make some assumptions, but the educational differences between many of the schools is minor but quality of soccer massive. many people are judging academics on the basis of college rankings. what is the real difference between a school rated 100 or 150 . im betting minuscule. Im also betting that a lot depends on the major a kid chooses.

bottom line is, i would give the complete opposite advice. If you are a keen soccer player, then pick a range of schools and choose the best soccer fit - coach, facilities, team culture, etc. That assumes all else being equal - ie you can afford it etc etc.



This may be one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. I would bet any amount of money that right now, there isn't a single kid on long island good enough to make a living playing soccer, and certainly not national team quality, so education is the most important thing. The fact that you are talking about schools ranked 100-150 already shows education isn't important to you. But that's ok I guess, your kid can come work for mine when she's done playing soccer.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/18/19 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI. The more important task is to know which 5 schools you are interested in for ACADEMICS. Reach out to those coaches early. Not always easy, especially if you didn't go to college or it's your first kid and you haven't done the college visits. Unless your kid is on the National Team, coaches don't come to games to recruit random players for their program. They come to games of kids who want to go to their school. Hopefully, soccer ability matches up with soccer program. If you have the grades for a D3, D2 and even low level D1, your daughter will get a spot on the roster. None of the coaches are there to pick up kids for their program if they haven't already been contacted about interest. PICK the School, not the Soccer Program. If you can get a couple of dollars, that's even better! Knew kids who got nothing but loved the team/coach and loved to play. Know kids who got some bucks (financial aid, grades, etc) and hated every minute of it! Disgusting process. Great when it works out. In the end, soccer and soccer pride/ego should take a back seat to getting the best education or the buck and a great fit all around for your daughter. Good Luck!


this response may resonate with some, but not me. Everyone is different and we really dont know what the "best" education is. Sure we can make some assumptions, but the educational differences between many of the schools is minor but quality of soccer massive. many people are judging academics on the basis of college rankings. what is the real difference between a school rated 100 or 150 . im betting minuscule. Im also betting that a lot depends on the major a kid chooses.

bottom line is, i would give the complete opposite advice. If you are a keen soccer player, then pick a range of schools and choose the best soccer fit - coach, facilities, team culture, etc. That assumes all else being equal - ie you can afford it etc etc.



This may be one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. I would bet any amount of money that right now, there isn't a single kid on long island good enough to make a living playing soccer, and certainly not national team quality, so education is the most important thing. The fact that you are talking about schools ranked 100-150 already shows education isn't important to you. But that's ok I guess, your kid can come work for mine when she's done playing soccer.


actually you could just as easily say schools 20 to 60 . the only reason i said 100 - 150 is to invoke the academic snobbery that is rife among so many. and the fact that many of the top soccer schools are actually pretty good at soccer. That makes them pretty inaccessible to most.

So read again...pick a range of schools that fit you academically and then pick the best soccer program IF soccer if important to you.

Hardly dumb. What is dumb, but sort of necessary when you fill elite leagues with non elite players, is to have parents trot out the whole the whole pick the best school irrespective of soccer argument having spent literally tens of thousands of dollars trying to differentiate their children thru soccer.

NJIT is like 102 on one list i saw..are you saying that anyone who goes there is not interested in education? St Johns was 150.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/18/19 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
The cement truck line is priceless! Perfect answer!
Each year the highest percentage of student-athletes transferring out are those who put the athlete ahead of the student. Just reading that post from the person who said they really don’t know the best education & therefore would pick a school for soccer made me sad. The vast majority of freshman get very little playing time the first year. So if they picked a college not because of there education or even like the school other than the soccer program there is a higher probability that kid will be miserable and will want to leave that college for a college that they will play without regard to there education. I hope people read that post and be as sad as me for that parent and do the right thing and put the student ahead of the education.


you lack comprehension. no one said pick the school on soccer alone.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/18/19 03:08 PM

Pick the school with the best educational fit for your child (major/affordability/internship/career vocation). Chances are they will not go on and play after college for a million reasons. Body goes out, reality sets in and basically they don't want to become a trainer when they wake up and their playing days are over.. If the end goal is to stay with soccer and become a trainer, then that's great. However, the guys who come from abroad are making a very good living in America, selling the dream to us. It was great for them to leave their country to come to this beautiful country and make a living and do well. Not sure it works the other way around. Also let's not forget about injuries! Pick the school....
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/18/19 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pick the school with the best educational fit for your child (major/affordability/internship/career vocation). Chances are they will not go on and play after college for a million reasons. Body goes out, reality sets in and basically they don't want to become a trainer when they wake up and their playing days are over.. If the end goal is to stay with soccer and become a trainer, then that's great. However, the guys who come from abroad are making a very good living in America, selling the dream to us. It was great for them to leave their country to come to this beautiful country and make a living and do well. Not sure it works the other way around. Also let's not forget about injuries! Pick the school....


playing after college has ZERO to do with it. let me ask you this. Why, on a soccer forum, would the quality of soccer not be the deciding factor among a range of schools that satisfy your academic need? its a pretty basic concept. too many people trot out what you just said. int eh extreme, no one is suggesting you choose Buffalo to play soccer over say Duke with all other things being equal.

The real choices usually come down to schools that are in similar categories and if thats what you are faced with then soccer should probably be the deciding factor if you care about it.

If not, then i would question why you devoted so much time to it.

this false narrative that a kid going to a top soccer school must be sacrificing education and must be focused on going pro is BS - Lets say your choices are Duke, UVA , Penn State, BC, ...pick the one where you have the best soccer fit. All provide decent educations. No different if your choices are Villanova,Rutgers, Penn State etc..
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/18/19 05:31 PM

We are saying the same thing. Those are great schools you mention. If your kid can get in academically and play soccer or just be rostered and you can swing the tuition, that's a great scenario.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/18/19 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are saying the same thing. Those are great schools you mention. If your kid can get in academically and play soccer or just be rostered and you can swing the tuition, that's a great scenario.


I am not sure we are. in reality soccer IS the deciding factor. Thats why parents are paying to do it. No matter what they try an tell you they are not just doing it as a fun activity for my kid. once you narrow in on your universe of schools, soccer is a huge factor.

if we are, then cool, but when people say pick the school first, it implies there is only one that satisfies. It implies ignore soccer and just pick the best school. once you have In reality there should be more than that if you are doing it comprehensively.

That makes no sense at all
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/19/19 12:39 PM

SO WRONG ON ALL LEVELS. Speak with coaches at these universities and they will tell you that you have to be comfortable at the University/College. If soccer is gone, do you see yourself staying at this school? does your kid really just want to be rostered? come on.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/19/19 01:26 PM

Most kids DO NOT get money for the sport. They get financial aid (single parent, very, very low income, grants and merit money (GRADES) OR A SPOT ON THE TEAM. When you start paying the tuition, you realize quickly what you are paying for.....an education that equals a real job when you graduate. Unless you have a ton of money, a business, connection that your kid can step into, or they want to be a trainer, then go for Soccer all the way!

Remember, trainers don't speak of this. That would hurt their income. They are working on "the dream". They want you to think that if you go to these showcases that have hundreds of coaches attending, that your kid has a chance to get shoulder tapped and get an offer that involves money. It doesn't happen unless of course you are a NATIONAL PLAYER
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/19/19 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are saying the same thing. Those are great schools you mention. If your kid can get in academically and play soccer or just be rostered and you can swing the tuition, that's a great scenario.


I am not sure we are. in reality soccer IS the deciding factor. Thats why parents are paying to do it. No matter what they try an tell you they are not just doing it as a fun activity for my kid. once you narrow in on your universe of schools, soccer is a huge factor.

if we are, then cool, but when people say pick the school first, it implies there is only one that satisfies. It implies ignore soccer and just pick the best school. once you have In reality there should be more than that if you are doing it comprehensively.

That makes no sense at all


The key comment here is "once you narrow in on your universe of schools". That universe of schools should be based on academics. Once down to the short list, soccer can be a bigger factor.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/19/19 02:30 PM

Are there many new commitments since 6/15/19 for the 2021s?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/19/19 03:36 PM

Better conversation while we may disagree the general consensus can agree that education comes first and foremost. Most schools are still working on there 2020’s which will conclude in the Fall for those who gave not finished by now. The 2021’s committed are usually those identified thru National pool, NTC, ID2 and are 4-5 rated in Top Draw. Schools have a yearly “need chart” and in a given year they see what positions they need filled either by graduation, transfer or attrition by quitting playing. All these situations happen at the vast majority of schools.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/19/19 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are saying the same thing. Those are great schools you mention. If your kid can get in academically and play soccer or just be rostered and you can swing the tuition, that's a great scenario.


I am not sure we are. in reality soccer IS the deciding factor. Thats why parents are paying to do it. No matter what they try an tell you they are not just doing it as a fun activity for my kid. once you narrow in on your universe of schools, soccer is a huge factor.

if we are, then cool, but when people say pick the school first, it implies there is only one that satisfies. It implies ignore soccer and just pick the best school. once you have In reality there should be more than that if you are doing it comprehensively.

That makes no sense at all


The key comment here is "once you narrow in on your universe of schools". That universe of schools should be based on academics. Once down to the short list, soccer can be a bigger factor.


Exactly. Start with a bigger poor of schools that fit for academics, major of interest, location, size etc. Then overlap that with soccer, the most important being is it the right level for you/will you play? Once you start contacting schools the list will narrow further based on who is interested and then, finally, who gives you offers and what the offers are. Where some get into trouble is their target list can get too short and then when offers don't come they're left scrambling. It's ok to have a few things you won't give on but typically there will be some degree of give and take (for the average player. True studs is a different story but that is very few players).
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/19/19 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there many new commitments since 6/15/19 for the 2021s?


way too early to say
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/21/19 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
SO WRONG ON ALL LEVELS. Speak with coaches at these universities and they will tell you that you have to be comfortable at the University/College. If soccer is gone, do you see yourself staying at this school? does your kid really just want to be rostered? come on.


READ what was written. its spot on. find a set of schools you are comfortable with then pick basis the best soccer IF soccer is important to you.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/21/19 03:30 PM

How can Smithtown claim that USYS EDP is better competition than NE NPL, soon to be ECRL? One of the best teams in the club, beats the supposed top Matchfit team from USYS EDP 3-0 but then barely gets by the NPL team on PKs. Same team beats a supposed top PDA team from USYS EDP 2-0 but then loses to the NPL team...but we're all supposed to just drink the kool aid and believe that EDP is going to be stronger???
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/21/19 04:40 PM

Wait...did smithtown actually make an announcement that the club is going to EDP league? I didn't hear anything.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/22/19 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can Smithtown claim that USYS EDP is better competition than NE NPL, soon to be ECRL? One of the best teams in the club, beats the supposed top Matchfit team from USYS EDP 3-0 but then barely gets by the NPL team on PKs. Same team beats a supposed top PDA team from USYS EDP 2-0 but then loses to the NPL team...but we're all supposed to just drink the kool aid and believe that EDP is going to be stronger???


Thanks Sue. Go back to bed and stop trying to stir things up
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/22/19 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can Smithtown claim that USYS EDP is better competition than NE NPL, soon to be ECRL? One of the best teams in the club, beats the supposed top Matchfit team from USYS EDP 3-0 but then barely gets by the NPL team on PKs. Same team beats a supposed top PDA team from USYS EDP 2-0 but then loses to the NPL team...but we're all supposed to just drink the kool aid and believe that EDP is going to be stronger???


Thanks Sue. Go back to bed and stop trying to stir things up


Not Sue (don't know who Sue is) and not trying to stir things up. Just asking a legitimate question. For the last 2 months all I've heard is how much better EDP is going to be for my kid, but it doesn't look like that's really the case. What gives?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/22/19 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pick the school with the best educational fit for your child (major/affordability/internship/career vocation). Chances are they will not go on and play after college for a million reasons. Body goes out, reality sets in and basically they don't want to become a trainer when they wake up and their playing days are over.. If the end goal is to stay with soccer and become a trainer, then that's great. However, the guys who come from abroad are making a very good living in America, selling the dream to us. It was great for them to leave their country to come to this beautiful country and make a living and do well. Not sure it works the other way around. Also let's not forget about injuries! Pick the school....


playing after college has ZERO to do with it. let me ask you this. Why, on a soccer forum, would the quality of soccer not be the deciding factor among a range of schools that satisfy your academic need? its a pretty basic concept. too many people trot out what you just said. int eh extreme, no one is suggesting you choose Buffalo to play soccer over say Duke with all other things being equal.

The real choices usually come down to schools that are in similar categories and if thats what you are faced with then soccer should probably be the deciding factor if you care about it.

If not, then i would question why you devoted so much time to it.

this false narrative that a kid going to a top soccer school must be sacrificing education and must be focused on going pro is BS - Lets say your choices are Duke, UVA , Penn State, BC, ...pick the one where you have the best soccer fit. All provide decent educations. No different if your choices are Villanova,Rutgers, Penn State etc..



Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Pick the school with the best educational fit for your child (major/affordability/internship/career vocation). Chances are they will not go on and play after college for a million reasons. Body goes out, reality sets in and basically they don't want to become a trainer when they wake up and their playing days are over.. If the end goal is to stay with soccer and become a trainer, then that's great. However, the guys who come from abroad are making a very good living in America, selling the dream to us. It was great for them to leave their country to come to this beautiful country and make a living and do well. Not sure it works the other way around. Also let's not forget about injuries! Pick the school....


playing after college has ZERO to do with it. let me ask you this. Why, on a soccer forum, would the quality of soccer not be the deciding factor among a range of schools that satisfy your academic need? its a pretty basic concept. too many people trot out what you just said. int eh extreme, no one is suggesting you choose Buffalo to play soccer over say Duke with all other things being equal.

The real choices usually come down to schools that are in similar categories and if thats what you are faced with then soccer should probably be the deciding factor if you care about it.


If not, then i would question why you devoted so much time to it.

this false narrative that a kid going to a top soccer school must be sacrificing education and must be focused on going pro is BS - Lets say your choices are Duke, UVA , Penn State, BC, ...pick the one where you have the best soccer fit. All provide decent educations. No different if your choices are Villanova,Rutgers, Penn State etc..

Good post, well thought out and open to interpretation. For 99.5% of the players this dilemma is not an issue when you look at those players in our area who are committed to these elite schools, ie. Duke, UVA, Penn State, BC, etc. The vast majority have choices below the top 20 in the country or outside the P5 Conferences. That being the case (here is the most difficult part) being realistic about where you fit in both academically as well as playing soccer. To pick a school based on the criteria of just soccer is a disaster waiting to happen entering your freshman year where the majority of freshman either sit or have limited playing time. If you pick a program for a highly competitive team the chances of you playing right away is minimal. What happens if you do not like the campus, the other students, your area of study is not strong at that university? That all comes into play. That is why the smart colleges coaches ask the most important question to a recruit, “If you get hurt or do not play to your liking will you want to stay in this college”. Both my daughters answered that question to the satisfaction of the college coach and never looked back on there choices. Use soccer to get into a college that best suits your education and then enjoying the soccer experience will work itself out.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/22/19 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can Smithtown claim that USYS EDP is better competition than NE NPL, soon to be ECRL? One of the best teams in the club, beats the supposed top Matchfit team from USYS EDP 3-0 but then barely gets by the NPL team on PKs. Same team beats a supposed top PDA team from USYS EDP 2-0 but then loses to the NPL team...but we're all supposed to just drink the kool aid and believe that EDP is going to be stronger???


Thanks Sue. Go back to bed and stop trying to stir things up


Not Sue (don't know who Sue is) and not trying to stir things up. Just asking a legitimate question. For the last 2 months all I've heard is how much better EDP is going to be for my kid, but it doesn't look like that's really the case. What gives?


Do your own research, you will never get an unbiased opinion on a board like this.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can Smithtown claim that USYS EDP is better competition than NE NPL, soon to be ECRL? One of the best teams in the club, beats the supposed top Matchfit team from USYS EDP 3-0 but then barely gets by the NPL team on PKs. Same team beats a supposed top PDA team from USYS EDP 2-0 but then loses to the NPL team...but we're all supposed to just drink the kool aid and believe that EDP is going to be stronger???


Thanks Sue. Go back to bed and stop trying to stir things up


Not Sue (don't know who Sue is) and not trying to stir things up. Just asking a legitimate question. For the last 2 months all I've heard is how much better EDP is going to be for my kid, but it doesn't look like that's really the case. What gives?


Do your own research, you will never get an unbiased opinion on a board like this.


What a player gets out of a team or a league is completely individualized. EDP has many levels and varying team quality within each level. Whoever her coach is and what she learns from him/her matters too, not just the league the team plays in.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can Smithtown claim that USYS EDP is better competition than NE NPL, soon to be ECRL? One of the best teams in the club, beats the supposed top Matchfit team from USYS EDP 3-0 but then barely gets by the NPL team on PKs. Same team beats a supposed top PDA team from USYS EDP 2-0 but then loses to the NPL team...but we're all supposed to just drink the kool aid and believe that EDP is going to be stronger???


Thanks Sue. Go back to bed and stop trying to stir things up


Not Sue (don't know who Sue is) and not trying to stir things up. Just asking a legitimate question. For the last 2 months all I've heard is how much better EDP is going to be for my kid, but it doesn't look like that's really the case. What gives?


Do your own research, you will never get an unbiased opinion on a board like this.


What a player gets out of a team or a league is completely individualized. EDP has many levels and varying team quality within each level. Whoever her coach is and what she learns from him/her matters too, not just the league the team plays in.


Great answer and it’s the key to picking what level of soccer is best for the player. Parents just don’t get it and never ask there daughter there thoughts. They make it either a social event about themselves or about there expectations for the player and want her to play in a higher league that is more than the player wants or capable of playing.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can Smithtown claim that USYS EDP is better competition than NE NPL, soon to be ECRL? One of the best teams in the club, beats the supposed top Matchfit team from USYS EDP 3-0 but then barely gets by the NPL team on PKs. Same team beats a supposed top PDA team from USYS EDP 2-0 but then loses to the NPL team...but we're all supposed to just drink the kool aid and believe that EDP is going to be stronger???


Thanks Sue. Go back to bed and stop trying to stir things up


Not Sue (don't know who Sue is) and not trying to stir things up. Just asking a legitimate question. For the last 2 months all I've heard is how much better EDP is going to be for my kid, but it doesn't look like that's really the case. What gives?


Do your own research, you will never get an unbiased opinion on a board like this.


I tried doing my own research, that's why I'm a little tweaked and feel like the club is BS-Ing me. My kid's team beat the snot out of an EDP team from a club that also fields an NPL team. The EDP team was very, very weak, meanwhile the NPL team was comparable the the NPL champions and another very good team in the playoffs. So I thought that was weird because I kept hearing that edp was better. When I checked out another age group, it was the same thing. They beat the EDP teams pretty handily, but lost or tied (won on PKs) the NPL teams. And these are considered top EDP teams that we're not even going to play in the EDP conference we're in. I'm just trying to figure out the logic of moving to EDP if the competition isn't as strong and why do people keep saying it's better when the numbers say it isn't.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 03:55 PM

Here is more research for you to do in solving this dilemma. How about sitting down with your daughter and asking her about her thoughts about next season. Is she happy about how the current season ended? Does she like playing on her team? Does she like playing with her teammates? Her coach/trainer? Does she want to play with this team again in the Fall. If the answer to these questions is yes then why does it matter if it’s EDP or NPL? Very simple solution. If the parent is the deciding factor then it gets complicated. Where the player plays should be based on the level and commitment of there athletic abilities and where they are the best fit. If she is happy to the above questions who cares what league the team plays in as long as she is happy and wants to continue to play soccer.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is more research for you to do in solving this dilemma. How about sitting down with your daughter and asking her about her thoughts about next season. Is she happy about how the current season ended? Does she like playing on her team? Does she like playing with her teammates? Her coach/trainer? Does she want to play with this team again in the Fall. If the answer to these questions is yes then why does it matter if it’s EDP or NPL? Very simple solution. If the parent is the deciding factor then it gets complicated. Where the player plays should be based on the level and commitment of there athletic abilities and where they are the best fit. If she is happy to the above questions who cares what league the team plays in as long as she is happy and wants to continue to play soccer.


Yeah but she'd be happy eating coco puffs and ice cream for dinner every night, so I should just let her do that?
Yeah she likes her team, but has friends on other teams too. Her team was good in NPL, but how does she grow as a player if she drops down into a league where they're pounding teams week in and week out? She will not be happy playing under those circumstances, and yes we've discussed it. While she's still at the age where she likes medals and trophies, she's beginning to appreciate the difference between succeeding against a challenging team and just racking up goals against weak competition. She prefers the former. That's why I'm trying to gather some opinions bc the numbers aren't adding up to the company line of EDP is better.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 05:27 PM

World Class

Every year World Class cuts New Jersey players without notification. The annual WC "radio silent" treatment, incumbent ECNL, ECNL-RL (NPL) boys and girls on all teams including top 05&06G teams are simply left out without so much as a phone call. Players in the programs for 4 or 5 years are cut by silent treatment and kids from Orangetown and Rockland NY are added every year.

NON-RESIDENT POLICY - WC has to pay a fee. (Shhhhh) Don't let this out.
https://www.orangetown.com/wp-conte...REEMENT_JAN_2016__DRAFT__no_markup-1.pdf


https://www.lohud.com/story/news/lo...r-turf-battle-recreation-youth/26665533/

A Tax Watch investigation explored the unusual business arrangement between the Mighty Midgets and World Class Soccer Camp — the Midgets' IRS filings and the close ties between the Midgets and town leadership.
•World Class Soccer Camp gets free field time on the taxpayer-supported town of Orangetown fields, while other private organizations pay a fee.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is more research for you to do in solving this dilemma. How about sitting down with your daughter and asking her about her thoughts about next season. Is she happy about how the current season ended? Does she like playing on her team? Does she like playing with her teammates? Her coach/trainer? Does she want to play with this team again in the Fall. If the answer to these questions is yes then why does it matter if it’s EDP or NPL? Very simple solution. If the parent is the deciding factor then it gets complicated. Where the player plays should be based on the level and commitment of there athletic abilities and where they are the best fit. If she is happy to the above questions who cares what league the team plays in as long as she is happy and wants to continue to play soccer.


Yeah but she'd be happy eating coco puffs and ice cream for dinner every night, so I should just let her do that?
Yeah she likes her team, but has friends on other teams too. Her team was good in NPL, but how does she grow as a player if she drops down into a league where they're pounding teams week in and week out? She will not be happy playing under those circumstances, and yes we've discussed it. While she's still at the age where she likes medals and trophies, she's beginning to appreciate the difference between succeeding against a challenging team and just racking up goals against weak competition. She prefers the former. That's why I'm trying to gather some opinions bc the numbers aren't adding up to the company line of EDP is better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is more research for you to do in solving this dilemma. How about sitting down with your daughter and asking her about her thoughts about next season. Is she happy about how the current season ended? Does she like playing on her team? Does she like playing with her teammates? Her coach/trainer? Does she want to play with this team again in the Fall. If the answer to these questions is yes then why does it matter if it’s EDP or NPL? Very simple solution. If the parent is the deciding factor then it gets complicated. Where the player plays should be based on the level and commitment of there athletic abilities and where they are the best fit. If she is happy to the above questions who cares what league the team plays in as long as she is happy and wants to continue to play soccer.


Yeah but she'd be happy eating coco puffs and ice cream for dinner every night, so I should just let her do that?
Yeah she likes her team, but has friends on other teams too. Her team was good in NPL, but how does she grow as a player if she drops down into a league where they're pounding teams week in and week out? She will not be happy playing under those circumstances, and yes we've discussed it. While she's still at the age where she likes medals and trophies, she's beginning to appreciate the difference between succeeding against a challenging team and just racking up goals against weak competition. She prefers the former. That's why I'm trying to gather some opinions bc the numbers aren't adding up to the company line of EDP is better.


If she is still young enough to enjoys medals & trophies then do not worry about leagues and go to a LIFC tryout. See if that is her speed going forward.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 07:40 PM

RE: World Class

New Jersey Parents should know that OMM is paying a fee to Orangeburg for out of locality, town, state players. Naturally WC wants to keep as much of the fee as possible therefore rosters maybe based on residency rather then merit.
Similar to NJ kids attending a SUNY I guess we could say ?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 07:42 PM

EDP is not a drop down from NPL. Over the last few years, NPL really became a weak league overall. The top teams were still pretty good but the falloff was tremendous. Depending on the age group, Edp/USYS has some really good teams/clubs. Take South Shore Select from Massachusetts for example, many of their teams dominate ECNL teams. So you really need to look at your specific age group and the potential league top to bottom
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
EDP is not a drop down from NPL. Over the last few years, NPL really became a weak league overall. The top teams were still pretty good but the falloff was tremendous. Depending on the age group, Edp/USYS has some really good teams/clubs. Take South Shore Select for example, many of their teams dominate ECNL teams. So you really need to look at your specific age group and the potential league top to bottom


South Shore Select is moving to GDA next year. So is STA and the bulk of the current players from the NJ Stallions. There are going to be very, very few strong teams left in EDP next year-even fewer in club v club.
Do you research
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/23/19 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
EDP is not a drop down from NPL. Over the last few years, NPL really became a weak league overall. The top teams were still pretty good but the falloff was tremendous. Depending on the age group, Edp/USYS has some really good teams/clubs. Take South Shore Select from Massachusetts for example, many of their teams dominate ECNL teams. So you really need to look at your specific age group and the potential league top to bottom


Umm, South Shore Select plays NPL so I'm not sure why you're using them as an example of an EDP team. And btw, they are playing in GDA next year. You should stop posting bc you don't know anything. Thanks!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/24/19 12:57 AM



WC 06G ECNL Of the 7 girls cut 5 are from NJ.

https://www.orangetown.com

The town recently negotiated for OMM to take over all costs related to the soccer complex and pay a portion of all nonresident fees to the town, amounting to about $100,000 per year.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/24/19 01:36 AM



WC 06G ECNL Of the 7 girls cut 5 are from NJ.

https://www.orangetown.com

The town recently negotiated for OMM to take over all costs related to the soccer complex and pay a portion of all nonresident fees to the town, amounting to about $100,000 per year.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/24/19 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
RE: World Class

New Jersey Parents should know that OMM is paying a fee to Orangeburg for out of locality, town, state players. Naturally WC wants to keep as much of the fee as possible therefore rosters maybe based on residency rather then merit.
Similar to NJ kids attending a SUNY I guess we could say ?


D’s team has added new NJ players each year she’s been there. Doesn’t seem like it’s been a factor.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/24/19 03:03 PM

reading that document, seems like WC is in violation of a host of the terms. Also, i dont see a rental rate or lease rate. I believe WC hosts many for-profit events on that facility grounds and re-rents those fields to third parties at a steep markup. I wonder if they have to turn those fees over to the town. Seems like the idea was to benefit local sports and the local community, not prop up a multimillion dollar business who then further rents out the facilities for additional profit given the sweetheart deal with get from the town. One day wise folks will take over in the town and realize they are giving it away to WC way to cheaply and that WC is not honoring the terms of the deal. this is where a watchdog group should look at conflicts of interest, kickbacks and sweetheart dealings.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/24/19 03:37 PM

WCFC is just OMM travel soccer. They used to be separate entities but OMM couldnt fireld teams and space was an issue. In order to keep using what are basically municipal fields, WC/OMM collectively have to have a certain % of the total player pool living in Orangeburg & Rockland county overall. That is across the travel and rec programs. Non resident players in WC have brought that % down too low and now the residents complain that what is basically a private club is using their public fields at no charge.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/24/19 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
reading that document, seems like WC is in violation of a host of the terms. Also, i dont see a rental rate or lease rate. I believe WC hosts many for-profit events on that facility grounds and re-rents those fields to third parties at a steep markup. I wonder if they have to turn those fees over to the town. Seems like the idea was to benefit local sports and the local community, not prop up a multimillion dollar business who then further rents out the facilities for additional profit given the sweetheart deal with get from the town. One day wise folks will take over in the town and realize they are giving it away to WC way to cheaply and that WC is not honoring the terms of the deal. this is where a watchdog group should look at conflicts of interest, kickbacks and sweetheart dealings.


Fwiw, those articles are from 2015-2016.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/24/19 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
reading that document, seems like WC is in violation of a host of the terms. Also, i dont see a rental rate or lease rate. I believe WC hosts many for-profit events on that facility grounds and re-rents those fields to third parties at a steep markup. I wonder if they have to turn those fees over to the town. Seems like the idea was to benefit local sports and the local community, not prop up a multimillion dollar business who then further rents out the facilities for additional profit given the sweetheart deal with get from the town. One day wise folks will take over in the town and realize they are giving it away to WC way to cheaply and that WC is not honoring the terms of the deal. this is where a watchdog group should look at conflicts of interest, kickbacks and sweetheart dealings.


What for-profit events do they host there?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/25/19 01:42 AM

Has wc ever tried to build its own local facility? What would it cost to build a similar facility?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/25/19 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has wc ever tried to build its own local facility? What would it cost to build a similar facility?


Finding the land is probably the biggest barrier.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/26/19 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has wc ever tried to build its own local facility? What would it cost to build a similar facility?


Finding the land is probably the biggest barrier.


There's a reason few clubs have their own facilities or even fields - it's a huge investment. Without deep pockets or generous donations it's tough to come up with the funds to buy costly land and then to build. Take out a huge loan? It's a huge risk to owners and an asset of limited value to a bank; fields are just the value of land really. A larger club will need multiple fields, not just one or two. Most will need to rent out the space during the down times to bring in extra money, which then requires more management time. If you get lucky you can buy something already built that's for sale or long term lease when it comes available.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 06/26/19 06:45 PM

That is why east meadow and farmingdale are together. East meadow wanted fields they are local and now they have great field access the farmingdale girls will not join ecnl as they won't take them now since they didn't take them before
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League - 07/17/19 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is why east meadow and farmingdale are together. East meadow wanted fields they are local and now they have great field access the farmingdale girls will not join ecnl as they won't take them now since they didn't take them before

That’s why the farmingdale team is the ECRL team ( aka ECNL 2/ ECNL B). Great marketing ploy and money grabber, stupid parents will pay all kinds of $ for that label, such a joke!
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