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Who’s the new coach at emsc?

Once players enter ECNL it is about creating a certain player. If your kid is lights out and is head over heals better….they are getting time.
If they are questionable or “have potential”…forget it.They will be lucky to be in practice and hope for a situation where they can get some time.
It is not “player first” it is not development.
It’s do or die: Race cut throat to the top…and it ends with mediocre dime a dozen players.
It’s not just the emsc story it’s the ECNL story across the country.

Some good points mixed in with some rant. How many players on a team (especially LI) are "lights out" or "head over heals" better than their teammates? Those players typically don't come off the field, nor should they. The word "development" in soccer is so over used and it's understandble since that is a phrase that many trainers drown the parents with. I agree that the coach needs to do a bit more in terms of personal development plans with individual players and parent communication. But, at what point is the trainer responsible for helping you develop your first touch, your first touch off the dribble, your ability to play under pressure with 1 or 2 touch soccer, your endurance, your ability to connect a pass to your teammate? The majority of players only touch the ball at practice, they're doing NOTHING to develop their technical skills (mentioned above) on their own. ECNL and GA are essentially platforms for clubs meant to allow players to organize and compete at a higher level of play. Both leagues are growing in size instead of focusing on fewer teams that are comparable to one another, it's a business. The top 3 teams do all the winning and goal scoring, while the middle of the pack teams are .500, and the bottom three can barely win a game let alone average 1 goal a game.

This is definitely the EMSC story.

When the kids enter pre-ECNL ages, they(Gary the gatekeeper) looks for the fastest kids. He will pick the kids that are bigger than average as well and maybe a handful with some soccer skills. Those are the ones that are usually at his private soccer school. Everyone else becomes 2nd class citizens and are handed down to the less qualified coaches.

At ECNL he will hand them over to Ruairi who will pull in 2nd choice players from the other clubs and replace the bench players from Gary's year.
At U15, a totally new team from when Gary took them into ECNL will be handed over to Jaime who will literally whip these girls into shape.

Along the journey EMSC would have seen 100% turnover in kids leaving less than mediocre players on all the EMSC teams fighting to come off the last spot in the division. Forget about developing talented kids to compete at the top level in tournaments.

EMSC has a proven pathway and recipe for churning out non competitive teams with kids developed elsewhere and going to EM for the ECNL badge.

Very very true

Giant turnout tonight at LISC

What other clubs were seen?

125 players

Not at SUSA

For the 2008 team???

Yes it was crazy crowded. I believe with GA rising, it brought girls down. And I think people are tired of the same old EM Susa crap. Think they want to make 3 08 teams, GA, GA rising, and I think an EDP level team from what was said last night

Where are all of these players coming from?

Didn't LISC already try having 3 teams at this age group? Didn't most of the LISC Orange (3rd team) leave to the Surf for this season?

I would assume the better town teams and ECRL players from other academies. You know how this goes. Kids try out everywhere. A bet alot of them are same ones that tried out at Surf etc. When is EM?

Huuuuuge turnout at LISC 08 tryouts. The breeze has shifted towards LISC / GA affiliation on LI. They have a solid reputation. GA league seems to be thriving. Adding a 2nd team within the GA organization is very attractive. Next year's U16 girls are very interested with what LISC has to offer next season. Now the only question is will the outside players who tried out and receive offers for the GA Teams accept the invitations? Trainers for next season have been announced. Can EMSC say the same with their teams? I think many will come over. Training is solid, good facilities to play and train Megan is a formidable DOC with a good training team. Many female role mode trainers. Soccer families were originally reluctant to join LISC due to a crowed very established area of soccer clubs w ECNL backing. Fast forward to now GA has established itself.

What’s the breeze blowing towards ? The 2008 blue team has bad practice participation, who’s coaching these teams ? FYI that Orange team used to beat the Blue all the time until they tried playing with rosters and parents said no more

Key word is used too. Times are changing. You haven't been paying attention if this is your assessment. Friend told me the blue team lost to the FC Stars RL team in PKs. I heard 40+ new players tried out. Thats significant. Anyone know the amount of new players trying out for 08 girls EM teams? Wasn't close to 40.

Are you kidding with Blue being on the rise?

They are middling team to bottom team in the Club v Club division of USYS NL. They've scored 7 goals in 7 games with 4 of them coming in one game against bottom of the barrel Manhattan SC. This means in the six other games they scored three goals. This is not good.

The reason that they lost Orange was because Orange used to be the old Alby B team. When they came over, they were promised to be kept together for at least one season, regardless of the talent level. LISC kept that promise but then in the second season, they started to move girls around from all the teams (some from GA to C, B to GA and all the permutations) and parents and players became disenchanted. In the end, parents did not want to be paying $3K to be losing to town teams and having to spend $500 on uniform packages yearly.

Then, during the last year's tryouts, Orange blew up as girls left for Surf and other local teams. GA had losses and thus the better girls from Blue were moved up to GA and whatever was left from Orange moved up to Blue.

As to being proud of losing to FC Stars RL, they lost to the RL White Team, which is their D team after their ECNL Blue (A), ECNL White (B) and ECRL Blue (C). So, yes, kudos to losing to a D team.

Quantity of girls is not indicative of talent and/or going to help the team improve. There are plenty of local teams that are blowing up or have blown up (Lindenhurst, Syosett, Connetquot, Longwood, Barca, etc.) so there are a lot of girls looking for new homes. Sure, there might be one or two girls that can play but to expect a huge influx of talent is unrealistic regardless of GA Rising. The last thing that parents want to do is travel up and down the east coast and get their asses handed to them week to week.

Ask Surf 08 about their E64 experience or EMSC RL this season.

That team they lost to was ECRL white on paper but a mix of girls from their other ECNL / ecrl 08 teams according to fc stars parents. I asked them.

Many of the girls that came to tryout were high level players

Sounds like bad business decision to Brake up one team to appease the other team, a lot of promises were made and not kept like the new soccer complex or uniforms being delivered day before games from soccer post, or coaches who look like slim shady

Can you please stop fabricating these things as it just makes you look silly. First, you said a friend told you and now you asked the FC Stars parents.

Yes, they played White ECRL and not a mixture of the other teams. Why do I know that, because, both ECNL teams were at the ECNL event in NJ at PDA and the Blue ECRL team was at the adjoining PDA Showcase.

As to high level players, based on your track record here, I’ll take it with a grain of salt.

D team or not the Stars white team is mid pack in the standings. They are full of talent. Meaning the LISC blue team could hold their own in the RL league. Quantity of players trying out for a newer club is another step in the right direction. EMSC has a decent 08 NL team and a very weak RL team. Tryouts were down for EMSC. There are reasons why not many kids aren't banging their foot down anymore. What else is there to say.

Fc stars is the biggest in the nation they rotate players constantly

In what fantasy land do you live?

FC Stars is not the largest club in the nation and by a lot. Depending on how you want to classify a club, Slammers and Surf dwarf FC Stars, especially in CA. If you want to say in terms of sheer size of one club, easily Solar in TX and PDA in NJ are bigger than FC Stars.

They do not rotate players constantly. This is the biggest garbage that you could possibly state. If you want to make yourself happy because you think you beat someone you didn’t, then go ahead,but you are dreaming. In fact, you’re lording over a PK loss, which is sad. You lost in that game, you lost in the preliminary game to them as well and your only win was over a 2010 team. I would not be coming on here stating that the LISC Blue is turning a corner. You should be quiet and accept your place in GA’s version of ECRL.

Lastly, there are several teams on LI, who are non-ECRL, that can hold their own with teams from ECRL and in fact, beat them as opposed to crowing about a PK loss. This is not something that is shocking at this age group or any other age group.

I think the pp who are sharing the latest with this age group arent crowing or boasting but explaining the progress made with a club in a very competitive soccer area. Scroll through the pages of comments regarding the 2 biggest clubs on LI. Doesn't take a surgeon to see things have changed recently. Have no rooting interest here. EDP stats are easy to find. The 08 Blue LISC did not score goals but they didn't give up any. The league seems competitive outside one club. STA is a good team they played the Blue LISC today. Anyone know what happened? Looking at stats STA let up 2 goals this season. Wonder if they blew out LISC blue or maybe they Won in PKs lol!!!