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Property assessments up. Taxes follow.
Interest rates up, assuming they're financing land.
Fuel costs still high compared to two years ago.
Goods and services up across the board. So cost of living is higher.
Which means salary has to keep up.
Make sure you keep your kids in school, genius. They'll learn what you're clueless about.
Not defending any particular club, just stating prices go up for everything.

The only bullet point I would question is, "Which means salary has to keep up.". I dont believe most trainers are on a "salary" with an accompanying W-2, but more 1099 employees, and that would be in some cases.

Based on the overall quality of the players and the global general teams results, I would question paying more for training, but that's me.

Any sport that inherently demands quick stopping and starting, front to back, side to side, etc will be more strenuous on the cruciate ligaments.
football, tennis, futsal, basketball, would be the most prominent. A lesser extent (albeit slightly lesser) soccer, baseball, hockey and others.
Fact of the matter is…competitive sports can and in most cases will lead to injury.
However many injuries can be prevented if strengthening and training is done properly.

In the case of futsal, I’m a true believer that if a primary soccer player trains futsal as well, said players reaction speed, thinking/processing/understanding and footwork will be far superior over time compared to a soccer specific trainee.

This is the future.

$5k plus travel and add ons

Future? You must have a financial interest in Futsal.

HA!! Agree with that!
The future of youth soccer continues to be bleak until the country or US Soccer figures out a way to subsidize these costs. Wander over to Flushing Meadow park and you'll see many talented kids unable to pay for this. This country sends billions in aid across the world, yet we can't send a few bucks this way. Shame. But, this is corporate America where these guys charge what they want and we all pay for it. And the training isn't even that good. but we get sucked into something called ECRL 3, or whatever is next. Just don't ever see it changing.

Let me extend this argument about SUSA adding a futsal floor to their new bubble in Central Islip. here is why, or certainly the main reason....

As the deed to the real estate shows, the owners are a corporation named TWO BROTHERS, and that would beGlenn and his brother Darren. Darren owns a big basketball club, Premier basketball, and basketball calls for....wait for it...a wooden floor.

Check your standings buddy Lake Grove, RVC, Massapequa Auberndale 08 teams are all top 10 ny east with the LISC EDP Team LISC actually lost players to Massapequa and Surf and RVC and Garden City half the price to play in the same league and have your own fields

Who of the group you mention have their own fields?

Garden City has their own fields I believe.

It’s not about how much any club is making to run ODP
It’s about ODP should be run by a group of individuals that answer to no one but the Olympic development organization. And they should be pay by that organization. Conflict of interest is all I see the ay it’s set up. Soccer in this country got to be the most disorganized sport.

HBC has an amazing ALL grass complex, the way the game is supposed to be played! 10 fields.

My point is that HBC, and in the earlier post about GC is they don't own the land, they dont own the fields.

No need to own them and have to pay a tax bill. But have had and will always have exclusive rights to the fields. Much better scenario as they serve the community in a positive way. Far greater experience than the ATM machine world of over paying to play the same sport with much better leadership and focus on the kids and not the parents pockets

HBC is run by a bad hombre and Garden City has the con man training company.

Did you know that HBC pays about $60,000 a year to the Town of Huntington for those fields......plus at Half Hollow Park HBC spent $50,000 upgrading the town's property.

Lake grove RVC Massapequa all have their own home fields with new turf and lights for half the price

None of those mentioned own their fields …. Those clubs are basically renters.

All an expense on the HBC club and not the parents. Plus they bought every player new uniforms again at an expense the club paid for. Low registration fees and some up and coming young teams

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If the plan is to play soccer in a moderately competitive league and have some fun. Then all those town teams mentioned are great.

However if a child is a standout on said town team and aspires to play at a higher level along with competing in leagues, camps, tournaments, etc where there are college and professional coaches, reps and scouts in attendance, then the place to be is with a club that holds and ECNL/rl badge.

However, just playing for the club doesn’t guarantee anything. The athlete has to have the will and the want combined with the athletic ability to move up the ladder in the sport.

Any club that receives the invites to higher level tournaments, camps, and competition will undoubtedly be more valuable than a town team that does not.

Tbh regarding paying to play in an ECNL/rl academy, the parents are paying more so for the future opportunity to opening those doors than anything else.
And this is the natural progression from the younger ages to the u13-14s and up.
At a certain age, most parents and kids who are rational understand where they stand and adjust leagues accordingly.

For any parent who adamantly declares that an ECNL/rl program is just as good as a town team and says there is no benefit to playing for the nl/rl academy most likely just has a child who isn’t skilled enough to play for the academy and/or isn’t concerned about future advancement in the sport.

We need an organization that’s willing to provide soccer for free by offering contracts to the best kids on Long Island. They can then make their money once they sell the contracts to MLS. We need a club with financial backing to do this. It’s a risk reward but be asure you’ll then have the best kids on LI in that one club and out an end to all this crap

Yes we are aware they are renters but play on one home field with lights unlike LISC who from
Week to week your at a different location for 3800 and unlike Susa or EM who have their own fields LISC does not for a GA program that’s not good

No lights at Mitchel? Where did they go? BTW, why are lights so important in the Summer? The minutia that some of you folks bring up across all age groups and posts to try to insinuate that either your club is better or to denigrate a club that thought your kid played like [****] is very transparent to me..

For me the alarm bells go off when the best thing you can say about SUSA is they have nice fields.

I'm sure they have better fields then most of the soccer clubs on the planet. Why can't they develop top players with such an amazing field?