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Keep going to SUSA that's the answer LOLOLOL .
They fleece almost 8 million dollars a year from ATM parents just like you and are always looking for more.
Talent is watered down and they only have a few truly qualified trainers.
You malcontents are running out of clubs!
And just some friendly advice to you loons... most of your kids won't play in college and those that do will recieve little if any scholarship. Just Relax and enjoy the ride
If the talent is so waterf down why are they better than every other long island team not even close. Buddy maybe your delusional

They have B, C, D, E teams in most age groups. Thats not watered down? All those players pay the same VIG. Plus do your homework, they develop very few. They acquire players and teams. LI Parents are NUTS
They don't have d e teams at this age group you talk about developing players are you and expert at this you must be being that you use that word all the time maybe you can start your own club and start developing players

The person is right to a certain extent. It is harder to develop players than just assimilate the best after much of the developing has already been done.

"Developing Players" is the most overused term on these message boards. Does development stop at 14, 15 or 16 years old. I don't think there is a coach in the world at any level that says development has an expiration date. If you believe that development ever ends you will also believe that you chied can receive a full athletic scholarship to play women's soccer.

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You can count on one hand the number of trainers that SUSA has that can coach up players. For what they charge and what they promise they woefully underdeliver.

They have a lot of the better more motivated players and more importantly motivated PARENTS (sheer quantity increases their odds). For tthe better players susa just rolls out the balls, for the kids who really need help, they aren't getting it at susa

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Development stops when the individual stops playing. Professional players are still developing. They constantly have to learn new coaching strategies and styles as well as improve their personal skill. So imagine what your 14,15, and 16 year old kid still needs to develop. The issue here is no one has the patience for it.

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You can count on one hand the number of trainers that SUSA has that can coach up players. For what they charge and what they promise they woefully underdeliver.

They have a lot of the better more motivated players and more importantly motivated PARENTS (sheer quantity increases their odds). For tthe better players susa just rolls out the balls, for the kids who really need help, they aren't getting it at susa

That’s with every one of these so called academies

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[quote=Anonymous]Or maybe they were sick of paying for trash training. They lost MORE than 10 players. They lost girls from EACH team. You're just mad that no one asked you to leave with them.
Wow. Which club and coach is responsible for this?


Probably SUSA, but they have 3 teams at this age. Did they lose any ECNL players?

SUSA lost 4 ECNL Players. Not cut, they left. Chose to no longer deal with JR and his constant screaming and berating. Plus his loser track record. And it will only get worse. More players will leave. JR is an embarrassment.

Where did those 4 players go?[/quote

Hey sweetie can you tell us the truth of what really happened. 1 girl got cut, new goalie left? Who else?

So I’ve been asking and you are ignoring this. Who were the 4 players and where did they go? Don’t post lies.

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Development stops when the individual stops playing. Professional players are still developing. They constantly have to learn new coaching strategies and styles as well as improve their personal skill. So imagine what your 14,15, and 16 year old kid still needs to develop. The issue here is no one has the patience for it.

Thats why parents don't embrace the 3-4 practices for every 1 match suggestion for player progression. Parents need to be able to share their childs weekly match updates on facebook.

Training that much would be a waste of time anyway with the SUSA trainers

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Development stops when the individual stops playing. Professional players are still developing. They constantly have to learn new coaching strategies and styles as well as improve their personal skill. So imagine what your 14,15, and 16 year old kid still needs to develop. The issue here is no one has the patience for it.

Thats why parents don't embrace the 3-4 practices for every 1 match suggestion for player progression. Parents need to be able to share their childs weekly match updates on facebook.

Training that much would be a waste of time anyway with the SUSA trainers

If SUSA training is a waste of money, imagine how worthless the training in LISC and EM is. Kids should participate for free so that trainers can gain experience there and work on their licenses.

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Development stops when the individual stops playing. Professional players are still developing. They constantly have to learn new coaching strategies and styles as well as improve their personal skill. So imagine what your 14,15, and 16 year old kid still needs to develop. The issue here is no one has the patience for it.

Thats why parents don't embrace the 3-4 practices for every 1 match suggestion for player progression. Parents need to be able to share their childs weekly match updates on facebook.

Training that much would be a waste of time anyway with the SUSA trainers

If SUSA training is a waste of money, imagine how worthless the training in LISC and EM is. Kids should participate for free so that trainers can gain experience there and work on their licenses.

Thank You for your input SUSA parent.

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Development stops when the individual stops playing. Professional players are still developing. They constantly have to learn new coaching strategies and styles as well as improve their personal skill. So imagine what your 14,15, and 16 year old kid still needs to develop. The issue here is no one has the patience for it.

Thats why parents don't embrace the 3-4 practices for every 1 match suggestion for player progression. Parents need to be able to share their childs weekly match updates on facebook.

Training that much would be a waste of time anyway with the SUSA trainers

If SUSA training is a waste of money, imagine how worthless the training in LISC and EM is. Kids should participate for free so that trainers can gain experience there and work on their licenses.

The stupidest comment of the month..... does the same logic apply to your auto mechanic? Hairdresser? They're providing a service for which parents should pay. It's up to the parent to decide the value of that service and whether better value could be had at another club. If you want free go to the myriad of local clubs and have an "expert" parent coach and develop your kid.

Each of those clubs (EM LISC SUSA) have good trainers but also the are bad ones. It's your choice to stay or leave.

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Development stops when the individual stops playing. Professional players are still developing. They constantly have to learn new coaching strategies and styles as well as improve their personal skill. So imagine what your 14,15, and 16 year old kid still needs to develop. The issue here is no one has the patience for it.

Thats why parents don't embrace the 3-4 practices for every 1 match suggestion for player progression. Parents need to be able to share their childs weekly match updates on facebook.

Training that much would be a waste of time anyway with the SUSA trainers

If SUSA training is a waste of money, imagine how worthless the training in LISC and EM is. Kids should participate for free so that trainers can gain experience there and work on their licenses.

The stupidest comment of the month..... does the same logic apply to your auto mechanic? Hairdresser? They're providing a service for which parents should
pay. It's up to the parent to decide the value of that service and whether better value could be had at another club. If you want free go to the myriad of local clubs and have an "expert" parent coach and develop your kid.

Each of those clubs (EM LISC SUSA) have good trainers but also the are bad ones. It's your choice to stay or leave.

brilliant !

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Where do all the best players play over the summer? Camps summer leagues?

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To pay an organization two years for bad coaching/training with hope the next trainer your child gets is well qualified doesn’t really sound too brilliant. At least come up with a more logical comparison. For example your child’s school teacher, in which you really have no say on who they get but you expect them to give your child a great education. We get to choose mechanics, we get to choose hair stylist. We’re not stuck with a 1 year contract with them.

If you pay for your child to go to Harvard, you expect to have the right caliber of teachers teaching your children to prepare them for Careers. Parents should have the same level of expectations from these so called top soccer academies. The issue is that these academie are so diluted both in players and coaches/trainers and desperate to keep cost down that hire anyone with mediocre training abilities or barely any experience.

Although we can’t compare the facilities that these academies have, local clubs may be able to provide better training and concentrate their attention to your children. They’re able to pick and choose their trainers in which they believe is best for the team and don’t really need to rely on an “expert” parent coach. The choice is theirs. They can fire the trainer at any time. Also don’t be fooled, some of these parent coaches are more qualified and dedicated then many of the trainers these organizations. That’s why RVC is great!

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To pay an organization two years for bad coaching/training with hope the next trainer your child gets is well qualified doesn’t really sound too brilliant. At least come up with a more logical comparison. For example your child’s school teacher, in which you really have no say on who they get but you expect them to give your child a great education. We get to choose mechanics, we get to choose hair stylist. We’re not stuck with a 1 year contract with them.

If you pay for your child to go to Harvard, you expect to have the right caliber of teachers teaching your children to prepare them for Careers. Parents should have the same level of expectations from these so called top soccer academies. The issue is that these academie are so diluted both in players and coaches/trainers and desperate to keep cost down that hire anyone with mediocre training abilities or barely any experience.

Although we can’t compare the facilities that these academies have, local clubs may be able to provide better training and concentrate their attention to your children. They’re able to pick and choose their trainers in which they believe is best for the team and don’t really need to rely on an “expert” parent coach. The choice is theirs. They can fire the trainer at any time. Also don’t be fooled, some of these parent coaches are more qualified and dedicated then many of the trainers these organizations. That’s why RVC is great!
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To pay an organization two years for bad coaching/training with hope the next trainer your child gets is well qualified doesn’t really sound too brilliant. At least come up with a more logical comparison. For example your child’s school teacher, in which you really have no say on who they get but you expect them to give your child a great education. We get to choose mechanics, we get to choose hair stylist. We’re not stuck with a 1 year contract with them.

If you pay for your child to go to Harvard, you expect to have the right caliber of teachers teaching your children to prepare them for Careers. Parents should have the same level of expectations from these so called top soccer academies. The issue is that these academie are so diluted both in players and coaches/trainers and desperate to keep cost down that hire anyone with mediocre training abilities or barely any experience.

Although we can’t compare the facilities that these academies have, local clubs may be able to provide better training and concentrate their attention to your children. They’re able to pick and choose their trainers in which they believe is best for the team and don’t really need to rely on an “expert” parent coach. The choice is theirs. They can fire the trainer at any time. Also don’t be fooled, some of these parent coaches are more qualified and dedicated then many of the trainers these organizations. That’s why RVC is great!

You made my point. If you don't like the trainer it's your choice to leave. Unlike school you havens many more options.
However you lost all respect when you mentioned RVC. They use Red Bull, a "poor man's" trainer. Some are OK others are young with no or little experience original interest in developing your child.
You get what you're assigned just like the other clubs. Good or bad.

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Rvc is a complete joke and can’t keep teams. The board is a bunch of political a-holes who think they know everything and have an arrogant trainer on the board that’s trains there so callled good teams. Guy thinks who he is and is average at best, how is a trainer allowed to be on the board. Most of the rvc parents are second or third generation who play their political games to the max and screw everyone over…stay far away as the are an embarrassment and a joke.

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Rvc is a complete joke and can’t keep teams. The board is a bunch of political a-holes who think they know everything and have an arrogant trainer on the board that’s trains there so callled good teams. Guy thinks who he is and is average at best, how is a trainer allowed to be on the board. Most of the rvc parents are second or third generation who play their political games to the max and screw everyone over…stay far away as the are an embarrassment and a joke.

Well said! It extends to HS and the lawsuits and racial incidents surrounding Girls team.

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Rvc is a complete joke and can’t keep teams. The board is a bunch of political a-holes who think they know everything and have an arrogant trainer on the board that’s trains there so callled good teams. Guy thinks who he is and is average at best, how is a trainer allowed to be on the board. Most of the rvc parents are second or third generation who play their political games to the max and screw everyone over…stay far away as the are an embarrassment and a joke.

Who is the trainer you speak of on the Board? I don't think there are any trainers on the Board

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To pay an organization two years for bad coaching/training with hope the next trainer your child gets is well qualified doesn’t really sound too brilliant. At least come up with a more logical comparison. For example your child’s school teacher, in which you really have no say on who they get but you expect them to give your child a great education. We get to choose mechanics, we get to choose hair stylist. We’re not stuck with a 1 year contract with them.

If you pay for your child to go to Harvard, you expect to have the right caliber of teachers teaching your children to prepare them for Careers. Parents should have the same level of expectations from these so called top soccer academies. The issue is that these academie are so diluted both in players and coaches/trainers and desperate to keep cost down that hire anyone with mediocre training abilities or barely any experience.

Although we can’t compare the facilities that these academies have, local clubs may be able to provide better training and concentrate their attention to your children. They’re able to pick and choose their trainers in which they believe is best for the team and don’t really need to rely on an “expert” parent coach. The choice is theirs. They can fire the trainer at any time. Also don’t be fooled, some of these parent coaches are more qualified and dedicated then many of the trainers these organizations. That’s why RVC is great!
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To pay an organization two years for bad coaching/training with hope the next trainer your child gets is well qualified doesn’t really sound too brilliant. At least come up with a more logical comparison. For example your child’s school teacher, in which you really have no say on who they get but you expect them to give your child a great education. We get to choose mechanics, we get to choose hair stylist. We’re not stuck with a 1 year contract with them.

If you pay for your child to go to Harvard, you expect to have the right caliber of teachers teaching your children to prepare them for Careers. Parents should have the same level of expectations from these so called top soccer academies. The issue is that these academie are so diluted both in players and coaches/trainers and desperate to keep cost down that hire anyone with mediocre training abilities or barely any experience.

Although we can’t compare the facilities that these academies have, local clubs may be able to provide better training and concentrate their attention to your children. They’re able to pick and choose their trainers in which they believe is best for the team and don’t really need to rely on an “expert” parent coach. The choice is theirs. They can fire the trainer at any time. Also don’t be fooled, some of these parent coaches are more qualified and dedicated then many of the trainers these organizations. That’s why RVC is great!

You made my point. If you don't like the trainer it's your choice to leave. Unlike school you havens many more options.
However you lost all respect when you mentioned RVC. They use Red Bull, a "poor man's" trainer. Some are OK others are young with no or little experience original interest in developing your child.
You get what you're assigned just like the other clubs. Good or bad.

Some of this is accurate but you do pick your own trainer at U13 onward. It's right on their website.

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Rvc is a complete joke and can’t keep teams. The board is a bunch of political a-holes who think they know everything and have an arrogant trainer on the board that’s trains there so callled good teams. Guy thinks who he is and is average at best, how is a trainer allowed to be on the board. Most of the rvc parents are second or third generation who play their political games to the max and screw everyone over…stay far away as the are an embarrassment and a joke.

Stay far away? Ha! Aren't they a town club? I don't think they attract kids from other towns which is actually impressive considering they are decent.

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Rvc is a complete joke and can’t keep teams. The board is a bunch of political a-holes who think they know everything and have an arrogant trainer on the board that’s trains there so callled good teams. Guy thinks who he is and is average at best, how is a trainer allowed to be on the board. Most of the rvc parents are second or third generation who play their political games to the max and screw everyone over…stay far away as the are an embarrassment and a joke.

Stay far away? Ha! Aren't they a town club? I don't think they attract kids from other towns which is actually impressive considering they are decent.

Fake news! Many of their top teams have players from surrounding towns.

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Rvc is a complete joke and can’t keep teams. The board is a bunch of political a-holes who think they know everything and have an arrogant trainer on the board that’s trains there so callled good teams. Guy thinks who he is and is average at best, how is a trainer allowed to be on the board. Most of the rvc parents are second or third generation who play their political games to the max and screw everyone over…stay far away as the are an embarrassment and a joke.

Stay far away? Ha! Aren't they a town club? I don't think they attract kids from other towns which is actually impressive considering they are decent.

Fake news! Many of their top teams have players from surrounding towns.

What towns? Oceanside has their own club as well as Lynbrook. You may see 1 or 2 Malverne kids in a grade but that is typically it.

Sounds like you are spewing fake news!

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Rvc is a complete joke and can’t keep teams. The board is a bunch of political a-holes who think they know everything and have an arrogant trainer on the board that’s trains there so callled good teams. Guy thinks who he is and is average at best, how is a trainer allowed to be on the board. Most of the rvc parents are second or third generation who play their political games to the max and screw everyone over…stay far away as the are an embarrassment and a joke.

Stay far away? Ha! Aren't they a town club? I don't think they attract kids from other towns which is actually impressive considering they are decent.

Fake news! Many of their top teams have players from surrounding towns.

What towns? Oceanside has their own club as well as Lynbrook. You may see 1 or 2 Malverne kids in a grade but that is typically it.

Sounds like you are spewing fake news!

There are players in several teams from Oceanside, Lynbrook, Malvern, East Rockaway, Merrick and even a couple from Queens.

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Rvc is a complete joke and can’t keep teams. The board is a bunch of political a-holes who think they know everything and have an arrogant trainer on the board that’s trains there so callled good teams. Guy thinks who he is and is average at best, how is a trainer allowed to be on the board. Most of the rvc parents are second or third generation who play their political games to the max and screw everyone over…stay far away as the are an embarrassment and a joke.

Stay far away? Ha! Aren't they a town club? I don't think they attract kids from other towns which is actually impressive considering they are decent.

Fake news! Many of their top teams have players from surrounding towns.

What towns? Oceanside has their own club as well as Lynbrook. You may see 1 or 2 Malverne kids in a grade but that is typically it.

Sounds like you are spewing fake news!

No fake news sweeetie, they have kids from Garden city on their team……they won’t last, they all think they have the next crystal Dunn and go somewhere else

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Buddy, you have zero credibility. There are no Garden City girls on the team, and this group stopped working with Red Bulls at u11. Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Whatever your issues with RVC Soccer Club are, it has nothing to do with this team of 13 year old girls. Why don’t you grow up a bit, and stop rooting for them to break up. Seems like you might benefit from some professional help. Or a Snickers.

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Ok buddy thanks…never said it had anything to do with the kids cupcake. Another obnoxious dbag rvc parent!

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This has 3 parts.....

Part 1....Anyone on here have a mirror in their house or have access to one? If so, take a good long look at your self it it when you get a chance. WE are the problem! Not the trainers, not the clubs. US! PARENTS! Plain and simple.....We make the financial decision. Whether its $500 or $4000 a year, that is on us. Now if you are a consistent club hopper, then you are the worst of all. One or two arrogant families that are never happy and think the club and it's trainers or cant get along with the other families. YOU are the problem. These girls are 14 years old. If they are not responding to a trainer it is because of YOU the parent! Bitching after every practice and game in the car. Bitching at breakfast and dinner. Bitching to your other cohorts on the phone within ear shot of your children. If the kid has a lousy attitude it is because of US! Period!

Part 2....Anyone on here hold their kids accountable? Once again, 14 YEAR OLD GIRLS!!!! If they get out run, or miss a shot, or send a lousy pass, or pass into pressure when they should switch fields, or try to take on 3 players and eventually lose the ball. Is that on the coach/trainer? Are they consistently blaming teammates and the coach? If they are then circle back to Part 1. IT IS ON US!!! And because they are 14 year old girls, it will damn near be impossible to change their habits and minds. It can be done. But it starts with us.

Part 3.....If you think you kid is better than what she is getting/performing. Ask them how they feel and do it without any personal influence about how you feel about a club, trainer, or other family.

LI is handicapped geographically and forever will be...There will never be a super team that goes out on the national stage and win's a national GA or ECNL title. IF so, it will be a anomaly of a team. There is just too much money to be made from the half a dozen or so conglomerates out here....

Hey folks, these are the golden years of their childhood. These next 4 years will flash and be gone. Some of them will play college sports. Most wont. At the end of the day it is how WE as parents act/teach them. This doesn't fall on LISC, SUSA, EM, RVC, or any of the other clubs that are trashed on this message board.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT OURSELVES FOLKS! Now everyone go enjoy their summer. That will be over just as fast and then Larry can make a "G2008:U15" forum so we can come on here and hate each other and the world of Long Island Soccer all over again.....should be fun.

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