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There is one thing I have to say about SUSA, and that is these guys sure know how to generate negative press, play all the angles,and apparently screw their customer base and us taxpayers.

Newsday today has reported a story on the federal Paycheck Protection Program, which is better known as PPP. The program awarded approximately $10.5 billion to more than 84,000 businesses and nonprofits in Suffolk and Nassau Counties during the 2020-2021 years, and that's according to Newsday's analysis of federal data. A total of more than 120,000 PPP loans were made locally and one of the recipients of a significant amount of money are our friends at SUSA.

As a point of reference, you may want to revisit https://www.backofthenet.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/743298/1, which contains the original letter sent by SUSA to it's paying customers advising them that SUSA would not be issuing any monetary refunds due to the fact they had to close because of the Covid pandemic, but instead offering a credit towards the upcoming season if you folks who had paid and did not get the services you paid for chose to continue with SUSA. If you chose not to continue then you are [****] out of luck. It is evident from the original post noted above that you folks, to say the least, were not jubilant about that decision.

Going back to the current Newsday article, BOTN has added up the money SUSA received from the PPP program and it totals $1,035,117, all the while neglecting to refund any money to their customers who did not receive what they paid for when SUSA shut down.

BOTN would be very interested on your thoughts in this matter. As an aside, the only other soccer organization on Long Island to receive any PPP money was the East Meadow Soccer Club which Newsday reports received $21,250.

You can access the Newsday database HERE

Below is a copy and paste from Newsday. The last column where you see the word "YES" references whether those loans are forgiven, and in all cases SUSA PPP loans are forgiven and no payback is required.

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While I am not a fan of SUSA the organization the PPP funds were very specific in how they can be used and refunding customers was not permitted under the plan.

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My error. Here is the complete list from Newsday of all Nassau & Suffolk County soccer entities receiving PPP money
Borrower Address City First Or Second Loan Amount Forgiven
PAUL RILEY SOCCER SCHOOL, INC. 47 AWIXA AVENUE BAY SHORE FIRST $53,137 NO
EAST MEADOW SOCCER CLUB, INC. 1836 NEWBRIDGE RD BELLMORE FIRST $21,250 YES
LA ESPIGUITA SOCCER LLC 1795 BRENTWOOD RD BRENTWOOD FIRST $23,500 YES
LA ESPIGUITA SOCCER LLC 1795 BRENTWOOD RD BRENTWOOD SECOND $23,500 NO
HARBORFIELDS SOCCER CLUB-SBA SMALL 7A TERM 28 STRATFORD GRN FARMINGDALE FIRST $46,180 YES
TOP CORNER SOCCER INC 16 OAKDALE BLVD FARMINGDALE FIRST $11,250 YES
U S ACADEMY OF SOCCER INC 875 CONKLIN ST FARMINGDALE FIRST $1,625 YES
EASTERN NEW YORK YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION INC 167 NASSAU BLVD GARDEN CITY FIRST $78,400 YES
EASTERN NEW YORK YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION INC 167 NASSAU BLVD GARDEN CITY SECOND $71,452 YES
GLOBALL SOCCER CONSULTING INC. 6 TOWN PATH GLEN COVE SECOND $170,057 NO
SOCCER SCHOOL OF EXCELLENCE 160 HILTON AVE APT E7 HEMPSTEAD FIRST $1,228 YES
ELITE SOCCER LI CORP 228 SPRINGMEADOW DR UNIT H HOLBROOK FIRST $6,500 NO
EAST ISLIP SOCCER CLUB 7 HOLLISTER LN ISLIP FIRST $50,000 NO
A.G SPORTS DBA SOCCER SHOTS 1 RAMBLE LN LEVITTOWN FIRST $109,625 YES
SUSA SOCCER TRAINING LLC 831 N QUEENS AVE LINDENHURST SECOND $452,272 YES
KICK START SOCCER ACADEMY LLC 38 BEECHWOOD AVE MANHASSET FIRST $6,000 NO
NY COED SOCCER LLC 39 HOMEWOOD DR MANHASSET FIRST $4,027 NO
CR SOCCER INC 7 E IROQUOIS ST MASSAPEQUA FIRST $10,000 YES
CR SOCCER INC 7 IROQUOIS ST E MASSAPEQUA SECOND $9,787 YES
UNIVERSAL KIDS SOCCER LLC 232 NORMANDY RD MASSAPEQUA FIRST $10,000 YES
MASSAPEQUA SOCCER SHOP LLC 1004 PARK BLVD MASSAPEQUA PARK FIRST $11,200 YES
SOCCER BAND-ITS LLC 260 HEWLETT AVE MERRICK FIRST $1,625 YES
KNIGHT SOCCER INC 334 LATHAM ROAD MINEOLA FIRST $7,500 YES
ULTIMATE SOCCER TRAINING 445 SPANGLE DR NORTH BABYLON FIRST $16,117 YES
GLOBALL SOCCER CONSULTING, INC. 1425 OLD COUNTRY RD BLDG A PLAINVIEW FIRST $189,337 YES
LONG ISLAND JUNIOR SOCCER LEAGUE INC. 701 KOEHLER AVE STE 9 RONKONKOMA SECOND $105,277 YES
LONG ISLAND JUNIOR SOCCER LEAGUE, INC. 701-9 KOEHLER AVE RONKONKOMA FIRST $110,200 YES
SUSA SOCCER TRAINING, LLC 905 W. JERICHO TPKE SMITHTOWN FIRST $473,700 YES
TOUROS SOCCER TRAINING INC 105 EDGEWORTH ST VALLEY STREAM FIRST $4,875 YES

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While I am not a fan of SUSA the organization the PPP funds were very specific in how they can be used and refunding customers was not permitted under the plan.


So, assuming your post is true, does that make it OK to still screw your customer base and not refund their money since SUSA was reimbursed? I think they are still used scum bags for doing that to people who supported and still do support them.

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While I am not a fan of SUSA the organization the PPP funds were very specific in how they can be used and refunding customers was not permitted under the plan.


So, assuming your post is true, does that make it OK to still screw your customer base and not refund their money since SUSA was reimbursed? I think they are still used scum bags for doing that to people who supported and still do support them.

OP. I 100% agree with you that people should have been refunded for services not received. The feds were very specific about what the money could be used for if you wanted to the loan "Forgiven". I'm sure the money was used to pay for employees salaries, mortgages, taxes and utilities, which are all approved uses. What was done with all the money collected from their customers is what they should be asking?

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Like them or hate them, did they break the Law? If not then SUSA as a "business' was smart and got $1,000,000 of FREE money from the government.

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Like them or hate them, did they break the Law? If not then SUSA as a "business' was smart and got $1,000,000 of FREE money from the government.

Interesting question: "Did they break the law"? Did they? Have you seen the paperwork they submitted? My educated guess is, NO YOU HAVEN'T, so before you make a statement of fact, know the facts, and you don't, but if you do, why not the paperwork they submitted?

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People are overpaying susa anyway. What does it matter???

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Like them or hate them, did they break the Law? If not then SUSA as a "business' was smart and got $1,000,000 of FREE money from the government.

Interesting question: "Did they break the law"? Did they? Have you seen the paperwork they submitted? My educated guess is, NO YOU HAVEN'T, so before you make a statement of fact, know the facts, and you don't, but if you do, why not the paperwork they submitted?

Larry, if it was forgiven then the proper paperwork was submitted and approved. End of story.

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Like them or hate them, did they break the Law? If not then SUSA as a "business' was smart and got $1,000,000 of FREE money from the government.

Interesting question: "Did they break the law"? Did they? Have you seen the paperwork they submitted? My educated guess is, NO YOU HAVEN'T, so before you make a statement of fact, know the facts, and you don't, but if you do, why not the paperwork they submitted?

Larry, if it was forgiven then the proper paperwork was submitted and approved. End of story.

You missed the point of my post. Nice pivot, though!!

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Like them or hate them, did they break the Law? If not then SUSA as a "business' was smart and got $1,000,000 of FREE money from the government.

Interesting question: "Did they break the law"? Did they? Have you seen the paperwork they submitted? My educated guess is, NO YOU HAVEN'T, so before you make a statement of fact, know the facts, and you don't, but if you do, why not the paperwork they submitted?

Larry, if it was forgiven then the proper paperwork was submitted and approved. End of story.

You missed the point of my post. Nice pivot, though!!

What's the point you are trying to make? Are you suggesting they defrauded the government? Like them or hate them there is noting here. If you have proof of some sort of malfeasance then show it. They took advantage of a government program, the same program that BOTN could have used to pay for "approvable" expenses. Like I asked previously, what happened to all the money paid by parents for services not received?

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The question to ask is how many people did not come back and were screwed of their refund????? Before we jump to conclusions, please get all the facts in order!!!!!!

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Like them or hate them, did they break the Law? If not then SUSA as a "business' was smart and got $1,000,000 of FREE money from the government.

Interesting question: "Did they break the law"? Did they? Have you seen the paperwork they submitted? My educated guess is, NO YOU HAVEN'T, so before you make a statement of fact, know the facts, and you don't, but if you do, why not the paperwork they submitted?

Larry, if it was forgiven then the proper paperwork was submitted and approved. End of story.

You missed the point of my post. Nice pivot, though!!

What's the point you are trying to make? Are you suggesting they defrauded the government? Like them or hate them there is noting here. If you have proof of some sort of malfeasance then show it. They took advantage of a government program, the same program that BOTN could have used to pay for "approvable" expenses. Like I asked previously, what happened to all the money paid by parents for services not received?

First, yes, what happened to all the money paid for services not received? Answer: They lost it and SUSA kept it.

Next, BOTN never thought of applying for any government assistance.

Next next, do you have proof that no malfeasance wasn't part of their 1 million dollar windfall? I don't but plan to see if FOIL will allow BOTN to obtain copies of their filing, and if we can, I will publish what I get.

Next, next, next, you seem to insinuate that, [i]Like them or hate them there is noting here", and I would take that as you are on the inside and know facts since you are stating facts, or at least trying to spin this away.

Now it's my turn to share my observations, and looking at all the reported soccer enterprises that applied for and revived money their cumulative total doesn't come close to what Glenn, Moussa, & Co. scored. Do mean to tell us that i million dollars was what you call "approved expenses" is SUSA's nut and/or losses? If that is true, no wonder they keep their eyes, ears, promises out there looking for ATM machines.

Sorry, but 1 million dollars in losses doesn't compute since as I recall they never totally shut down...like a Timex watch during the height of covid SUSA kept on tickin'.

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according to SUSA they kept collecting dues so they could pay their coaching staff. Which it’s complete BS and very selfish on their part. Their coaching staff could’ve collected unemployment like most people that needed it did.
If anyone thinks that any club (not just SUSA) it’s about seeing your kid succeed, you are delusional. It’s a business and you as a parent should take advantages of everything they offer your kids.

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according to SUSA they kept collecting dues so they could pay their coaching staff. Which it’s complete BS and very selfish on their part. Their coaching staff could’ve collected unemployment like most people that needed it did.
If anyone thinks that any club (not just SUSA) it’s about seeing your kid succeed, you are delusional. It’s a business and you as a parent should take advantages of everything they offer your kids.

Maybe I am wrong but wasn’t the PPP know as the “Payroll Protection Plan” meaning it was to help pay employees?
People on these boards have referred to it as government money it’s actually taxpayer’s money in other words OUR money. The government was so busy giving away OUR money that many many people committed fraud and some have even been caught.

Our government at ALL levels has proven over and over again that they cannot even give away money properly.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
according to SUSA they kept collecting dues so they could pay their coaching staff. Which it’s complete BS and very selfish on their part. Their coaching staff could’ve collected unemployment like most people that needed it did.
If anyone thinks that any club (not just SUSA) it’s about seeing your kid succeed, you are delusional. It’s a business and you as a parent should take advantages of everything they offer your kids.

If they kept collecting the yearly dues from their paying customers as they did, then where was the financial impact on Susa to justify receiving all this taxpayer money? Appears if your customer base is paying their dues no financial loss was incurred other then maybe tournaments not being held. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe their tournaments are under a different business entity? Maybe they double dipped and as LIRef indicated, our government was completely asleep at the wheel and there was billions in fraud (that we know of).

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