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There is one thing I have to say about SUSA, and that is these guys sure know how to generate negative press, play all the angles,and apparently screw their customer base and us taxpayers.

Newsday today has reported a story on the federal Paycheck Protection Program, which is better known as PPP. The program awarded approximately $10.5 billion to more than 84,000 businesses and nonprofits in Suffolk and Nassau Counties during the 2020-2021 years, and that's according to Newsday's analysis of federal data. A total of more than 120,000 PPP loans were made locally and one of the recipients of a significant amount of money are our friends at SUSA.

As a point of reference, you may want to revisit https://www.backofthenet.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/743298/1, which contains the original letter sent by SUSA to it's paying customers advising them that SUSA would not be issuing any monetary refunds due to the fact they had to close because of the Covid pandemic, but instead offering a credit towards the upcoming season if you folks who had paid and did not get the services you paid for chose to continue with SUSA. If you chose not to continue then you are [****] out of luck. It is evident from the original post noted above that you folks, to say the least, were not jubilant about that decision.

Going back to the current Newsday article, BOTN has added up the money SUSA received from the PPP program and it totals $1,035,117, all the while neglecting to refund any money to their customers who did not receive what they paid for when SUSA shut down.

BOTN would be very interested on your thoughts in this matter. As an aside, the only other soccer organization on Long Island to receive any PPP money was the East Meadow Soccer Club which Newsday reports received $21,250.

You can access the Newsday database HERE

Below is a copy and paste from Newsday. The last column where you see the word "YES" references whether those loans are forgiven, and in all cases SUSA PPP loans are forgiven and no payback is required.

While I am not a fan of SUSA the organization the PPP funds were very specific in how they can be used and refunding customers was not permitted under the plan.

My error. Here is the complete list from Newsday of all Nassau & Suffolk County soccer entities receiving PPP money

Borrower	Address	City	First Or Second Loan	Amount	Forgiven
PAUL RILEY SOCCER SCHOOL, INC.	47 AWIXA AVENUE	BAY SHORE	FIRST	$53,137	NO
EAST MEADOW SOCCER CLUB, INC.	1836 NEWBRIDGE RD	BELLMORE	FIRST	$21,250	YES
LA ESPIGUITA SOCCER LLC	1795 BRENTWOOD RD	BRENTWOOD	FIRST	$23,500	YES
LA ESPIGUITA SOCCER LLC	1795 BRENTWOOD RD	BRENTWOOD	SECOND	$23,500	NO
HARBORFIELDS SOCCER CLUB-SBA SMALL 7A TERM	28 STRATFORD GRN	FARMINGDALE	FIRST	$46,180	YES
TOP CORNER SOCCER INC	16 OAKDALE BLVD	FARMINGDALE	FIRST	$11,250	YES
U S ACADEMY OF SOCCER INC	875 CONKLIN ST	FARMINGDALE	FIRST	$1,625	YES
EASTERN NEW YORK YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION INC	167 NASSAU BLVD	GARDEN CITY	FIRST	$78,400	YES
EASTERN NEW YORK YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION INC	167 NASSAU BLVD	GARDEN CITY	SECOND	$71,452	YES
GLOBALL SOCCER CONSULTING INC.	6 TOWN PATH	GLEN COVE	SECOND	$170,057	NO
SOCCER SCHOOL OF EXCELLENCE	160 HILTON AVE APT E7	HEMPSTEAD	FIRST	$1,228	YES
ELITE SOCCER LI CORP	228 SPRINGMEADOW DR UNIT H	HOLBROOK	FIRST	$6,500	NO
EAST ISLIP SOCCER CLUB	7 HOLLISTER LN	ISLIP	FIRST	$50,000	NO
A.G SPORTS DBA SOCCER SHOTS	1 RAMBLE LN	LEVITTOWN	FIRST	$109,625	YES
SUSA SOCCER TRAINING LLC	831 N QUEENS AVE	LINDENHURST	SECOND	$452,272	YES
KICK START SOCCER ACADEMY LLC	38 BEECHWOOD AVE	MANHASSET	FIRST	$6,000	NO
NY COED SOCCER LLC	39 HOMEWOOD DR	MANHASSET	FIRST	$4,027	NO
CR SOCCER INC	7 E IROQUOIS ST	MASSAPEQUA	FIRST	$10,000	YES
CR SOCCER INC	7 IROQUOIS ST E	MASSAPEQUA	SECOND	$9,787	YES
UNIVERSAL KIDS SOCCER LLC	232 NORMANDY RD	MASSAPEQUA	FIRST	$10,000	YES
MASSAPEQUA SOCCER SHOP LLC	1004 PARK BLVD	MASSAPEQUA PARK	FIRST	$11,200	YES
SOCCER BAND-ITS LLC	260 HEWLETT AVE	MERRICK	FIRST	$1,625	YES
KNIGHT SOCCER INC	334 LATHAM ROAD	MINEOLA	FIRST	$7,500	YES
ULTIMATE SOCCER TRAINING	445 SPANGLE DR	NORTH BABYLON	FIRST	$16,117	YES
GLOBALL SOCCER CONSULTING, INC.	1425 OLD COUNTRY RD BLDG A	PLAINVIEW	FIRST	$189,337	YES
LONG ISLAND JUNIOR SOCCER LEAGUE INC.	701 KOEHLER AVE STE 9	RONKONKOMA	SECOND	$105,277	YES
LONG ISLAND JUNIOR SOCCER LEAGUE, INC.	701-9 KOEHLER AVE	RONKONKOMA	FIRST	$110,200	YES
SUSA SOCCER TRAINING, LLC	905 W. JERICHO TPKE	SMITHTOWN	FIRST	$473,700	YES
TOUROS SOCCER TRAINING INC	105 EDGEWORTH ST	VALLEY STREAM	FIRST	$4,875	YES

So, assuming your post is true, does that make it OK to still screw your customer base and not refund their money since SUSA was reimbursed? I think they are still used scum bags for doing that to people who supported and still do support them.

OP. I 100% agree with you that people should have been refunded for services not received. The feds were very specific about what the money could be used for if you wanted to the loan "Forgiven". I'm sure the money was used to pay for employees salaries, mortgages, taxes and utilities, which are all approved uses. What was done with all the money collected from their customers is what they should be asking?

Like them or hate them, did they break the Law? If not then SUSA as a "business' was smart and got $1,000,000 of FREE money from the government.

Business.

Interesting question: "Did they break the law"? Did they? Have you seen the paperwork they submitted? My educated guess is, NO YOU HAVEN'T, so before you make a statement of fact, know the facts, and you don't, but if you do, why not produce the paperwork they submitted?

People are overpaying susa anyway. What does it matter???

Larry, if it was forgiven then the proper paperwork was submitted and approved. End of story.

You missed the point of my post. Nice pivot, though!!

What's the point you are trying to make? Are you suggesting they defrauded the government? Like them or hate them there is noting here. If you have proof of some sort of malfeasance then show it. They took advantage of a government program, the same program that BOTN could have used to pay for "approvable" expenses. Like I asked previously, what happened to all the money paid by parents for services not received?

The question to ask is how many people did not come back and were screwed of their refund????? Before we jump to conclusions, please get all the facts in order!!!!!!

First, yes, what happened to all the money paid for services not received? Answer: They lost it and SUSA kept it.

Next, BOTN never thought of applying for any government assistance.

Next next, do you have proof that no malfeasance wasn't part of their 1 million dollar windfall? I don't but plan to see if FOIL will allow BOTN to obtain copies of their filing, and if we can, I will publish what I get.

Next, next, next, you seem to insinuate that, Like them or hate them there is noting here", and I would take that as you are on the inside and know facts since you are stating facts, or at least trying to spin this away.

Now it's my turn to share my observations, and looking at all the reported soccer enterprises that applied for and revived money their cumulative total doesn't come close to what Glenn, Moussa, & Co. scored. Do mean to tell us that 1 million dollars was what you call "approved expenses" is SUSA's nut and/or losses? If that is true, no wonder they keep their eyes, ears, promises out there looking for ATM machines.

Sorry, but 1 million dollars in losses doesn't compute since as I recall they never totally shut down...like a Timex watch during the height of covid SUSA kept on tickin'.

according to SUSA they kept collecting dues so they could pay their coaching staff. Which it’s complete BS and very selfish on their part. Their coaching staff could’ve collected unemployment like most people that needed it did.
If anyone thinks that any club (not just SUSA) it’s about seeing your kid succeed, you are delusional. It’s a business and you as a parent should take advantages of everything they offer your kids.

Maybe I am wrong but wasn’t the PPP know as the “Payroll Protection Plan” meaning it was to help pay employees?
People on these boards have referred to it as government money it’s actually taxpayer’s money in other words OUR money. The government was so busy giving away OUR money that many many people committed fraud and some have even been caught.

Our government at ALL levels has proven over and over again that they cannot even give away money properly.

If they kept collecting the yearly dues from their paying customers as they did, then where was the financial impact on Susa to justify receiving all this taxpayer money? Appears if your customer base is paying their dues no financial loss was incurred other then maybe tournaments not being held. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe their tournaments are under a different business entity? Maybe they double dipped and as LIRef indicated, our government was completely asleep at the wheel and there was billions in fraud (that we know of).