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I was hoping that someone with more knowledge of the topic would be able to share some details around EDP/NYCS's League Cup. Can anyone verify what the official cutoff date was for Round 1 games to be completed? Thanks in advance!

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It was the 27th of March, but as you probably know that rule only applies to non-SUSA teams.

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27 March. Unless you are SUSA, I think they have different rules.

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SUSA has a couple teams that have 1st round games scheduled for this weekend. How is this acceptable, and why aren't coaches from other teams making an argument and at minimum, documenting the responses that they get from NYSC/EDP?

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27 March. Unless you are SUSA, I think they have different rules.
Uh oh another whiney thread about susa

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Money talks BS walks and as it turns out SUSA got the money the rest of you chumps got squat!

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SUSA has a couple teams that have 1st round games scheduled for this weekend. How is this acceptable, and why aren't coaches from other teams making an argument and at minimum, documenting the responses that they get from NYSC/EDP?

SUSA Moussa and Gary Grossman are joined at the hip. Grossman is on his knees in front of Moussa and you folks are going to have to deal with SUSA or stop supporting them so they come down to earth. SUSA is your (all) big problem especially those that are part of that organization. My 2 centys.

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I don't see what's whiny about the thread. I think it's a legitimate question. You have teams from all over the state rearranging schedules to make sure they get the games in before the deadline, only to find out that SUSA get's to work under a different set of rules?

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i'm definitely not disputing any of this, but I would still be asking the question (if I were a coach or in a position of leadership at a club). Just letting it happen without documenting their response doesn't make much sense. If nothing else, i'm sure their answer will be entertaining...

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i'm definitely not disputing any of this, but I would still be asking the question (if I were a coach or in a position of leadership at a club). Just letting it happen without documenting their response doesn't make much sense. If nothing else, i'm sure their answer will be entertaining...


IMO, you are dealing with two soccer sluts...Moussa SUSA and Gary Grossman. Do you really think they give a [****] about you and your team? They both ATM Machines, and you are the cardholder. It is nothing more than that and either accept it or not. It is your money and your child. Again, that is my 2 cents.

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The SUSA team in my child’s age bracket has not played one game yet. It looks like they will play them all this upcoming weekend. The other SUSA team that we played had two guest players not on the roster that was handed to the ref. I asked the ref about it and he shrugged his shoulders.

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The SUSA team in my child’s age bracket has not played one game yet. It looks like they will play them all this upcoming weekend. The other SUSA team that we played had two guest players not on the roster that was handed to the ref. I asked the ref about it and he shrugged his shoulders.
I emailed NYCS about it and this was the response :

Teams that ran into difficulty reaching agreement and some teams whose games were canceled on the 3/12 bad weather date that reached out, were advised that they could play beyond 3/27 under the listed protocol. We are currently working on identifying the qualified teams so we may conduct the random draw. This typically takes about 7 days.

NY League Cup group stage deadline date for U10-U15 teams is March 27. In response to your request to schedule within the date range of March 28-April 3, we will only consider this if you have exhausted all other potential options including playing on a weeknight (if travel distance between the teams makes this feasible or requesting the away team to host the game if home team is unable to provide a field.

If any game scheduled beyond the March 27 deadline is not played for any reason, it will remain un-played and it will not be included in determining which teams advance into the elimination round.

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Originally Posted by TBaggz
I don't see what's whiny about the thread. I think it's a legitimate question. You have teams from all over the state rearranging schedules to make sure they get the games in before the deadline, only to find out that SUSA get's to work under a different set of rules?
Cup games are small potato's to Susa only you small clubs sweat that [****]

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I don't see what's whiny about the thread. I think it's a legitimate question. You have teams from all over the state rearranging schedules to make sure they get the games in before the deadline, only to find out that SUSA get's to work under a different set of rules?
Cup games are small potato's to Susa only you small clubs sweat that [****]

Read what this SUSA person said small clubs, and remember that when they come begging for you to play in their tournaments...do you small clubs understand where SUSA places you in their hallucinated soccer grandeur?

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I don't see what's whiny about the thread. I think it's a legitimate question. You have teams from all over the state rearranging schedules to make sure they get the games in before the deadline, only to find out that SUSA get's to work under a different set of rules?
Cup games are small potato's to Susa only you small clubs sweat that [****]

Not by the way they stack your teams to win them at early ages. Susa sideline crazy. Screaming at refs and kids. Losers.

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I don't see what's whiny about the thread. I think it's a legitimate question. You have teams from all over the state rearranging schedules to make sure they get the games in before the deadline, only to find out that SUSA get's to work under a different set of rules?
Cup games are small potato's to Susa only you small clubs sweat that [****]

Read what this SUSA person said small clubs, and remember that when they come begging for you to play in their tournaments...do you small clubs understand where SUSA places you in their hallucinated soccer grandeur?

To the commenter above, who claims that I am whining about SUSA...It's not a matter of whether or not Cup games are important to SUSA vs smaller clubs. To be honest, you have no clue who my kid plays for. It's a matter of the preferential treatment that SUSA receives and the constant bending of the rules. The world of soccer would get along fine without SUSA or Gary Grossman and his goon squad.

And yes Larry, I completely agree with your assessment. The best way to hit SUSA is to simply say no to their tourneys. If everyone told them to go "F" themselves, they'd eventually come down to earth.

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Here we go again. Wait until they start entering fake scores for games that never happened when their own two teams are slated to play each other. Remember that one, Gary?

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It is a hugely disorganized mess with constantly changing rules and I have strong doubts as to whether the SAY sanctioning is legit as they did not require any coaching background checks or any other verification. They are having teams print out their ENYYSA rosters and whiting out the ENYYSA logo's.

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It appears that ODP & NCE have large regional (non-optional) events, the same weekend as NYSC's NY Champions Cup which will be held at World Class. We constantly hear Gary & his goons spew the narrative that "it's all about the kids and their development". I'll be interested to see NYCS's response when coaches start asking for flexibility around the timing of the finals. Given the fact that Gary's cash cow (SUSA) was given so much flexibility around the scheduling of their state cup games, you'd naturally assume that this same flexibility would be given to these other teams.....You know....because it's for the kids.

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The SUSA team in my child’s age bracket has not played one game yet. It looks like they will play them all this upcoming weekend. The other SUSA team that we played had two guest players not on the roster that was handed to the ref. I asked the ref about it and he shrugged his shoulders.
I emailed NYCS about it and this was the response :

Teams that ran into difficulty reaching agreement and some teams whose games were canceled on the 3/12 bad weather date that reached out, were advised that they could play beyond 3/27 under the listed protocol. We are currently working on identifying the qualified teams so we may conduct the random draw. This typically takes about 7 days.

NY League Cup group stage deadline date for U10-U15 teams is March 27. In response to your request to schedule within the date range of March 28-April 3, we will only consider this if you have exhausted all other potential options including playing on a weeknight (if travel distance between the teams makes this feasible or requesting the away team to host the game if home team is unable to provide a field.

If any game scheduled beyond the March 27 deadline is not played for any reason, it will remain un-played and it will not be included in determining which teams advance into the elimination round.

Random Draws are conducted for qualified teams? What a joke. Play and beat an Albertson or SUSA team with a few talented players you have, teams like SUSA and Albertson come after parents to poach talented kids. If you don't take the offer and continue to play in leagues like this, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know how the so called random draws works. How on earth do you play a team that you played in the group stages again, in this case as early as SF when only 8 teams can qualify? Maybe they have a point calling by terming it random draw. Random draw managed by their owner which is SUSA.

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The SUSA team in my child’s age bracket has not played one game yet. It looks like they will play them all this upcoming weekend. The other SUSA team that we played had two guest players not on the roster that was handed to the ref. I asked the ref about it and he shrugged his shoulders.
I emailed NYCS about it and this was the response :

Teams that ran into difficulty reaching agreement and some teams whose games were canceled on the 3/12 bad weather date that reached out, were advised that they could play beyond 3/27 under the listed protocol. We are currently working on identifying the qualified teams so we may conduct the random draw. This typically takes about 7 days.

NY League Cup group stage deadline date for U10-U15 teams is March 27. In response to your request to schedule within the date range of March 28-April 3, we will only consider this if you have exhausted all other potential options including playing on a weeknight (if travel distance between the teams makes this feasible or requesting the away team to host the game if home team is unable to provide a field.

If any game scheduled beyond the March 27 deadline is not played for any reason, it will remain un-played and it will not be included in determining which teams advance into the elimination round.

Random Draws are conducted for qualified teams? What a joke. Play and beat an Albertson or SUSA team with a few talented players you have, teams like SUSA and Albertson come after parents to poach talented kids. If you don't take the offer and continue to play in leagues like this, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know how the so called random draws works. How on earth do you play a team that you played in the group stages again, in this case as early as SF when only 8 teams can qualify? Maybe they have a point calling by terming it random draw. Random draw managed by their owner which is SUSA.

More gibberish. Play the games, this isn't the world cup.

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The SUSA team in my child’s age bracket has not played one game yet. It looks like they will play them all this upcoming weekend. The other SUSA team that we played had two guest players not on the roster that was handed to the ref. I asked the ref about it and he shrugged his shoulders.
I emailed NYCS about it and this was the response :

Teams that ran into difficulty reaching agreement and some teams whose games were canceled on the 3/12 bad weather date that reached out, were advised that they could play beyond 3/27 under the listed protocol. We are currently working on identifying the qualified teams so we may conduct the random draw. This typically takes about 7 days.

NY League Cup group stage deadline date for U10-U15 teams is March 27. In response to your request to schedule within the date range of March 28-April 3, we will only consider this if you have exhausted all other potential options including playing on a weeknight (if travel distance between the teams makes this feasible or requesting the away team to host the game if home team is unable to provide a field.

If any game scheduled beyond the March 27 deadline is not played for any reason, it will remain un-played and it will not be included in determining which teams advance into the elimination round.

Random Draws are conducted for qualified teams? What a joke. Play and beat an Albertson or SUSA team with a few talented players you have, teams like SUSA and Albertson come after parents to poach talented kids. If you don't take the offer and continue to play in leagues like this, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know how the so called random draws works. How on earth do you play a team that you played in the group stages again, in this case as early as SF when only 8 teams can qualify? Maybe they have a point calling by terming it random draw. Random draw managed by their owner which is SUSA.

More gibberish. Play the games, this isn't the world cup.

Stop complaining you whiners from little clubs. That's why we parents pay SUSA big money. Not just to train our kids but to manage leagues and get results that will make our kids feel they were born for this beautiful game. Right?

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