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Fall Season in Jeopardy
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Below is the statement from the NYC Parks Dept. regarding field permits. ENYYSA now say the Fall season is in doubt. Here is their comment: the City of New York has pulled all field permits for soccer. Not looking good on returning to play.

Source directly from NYC Parks Permit office states:

"Thank you for your patience regarding your Fall 2020 NYC Parks athletic field permit application. Due to health and safety concerns we will not be issuing fall athletic field permits at this time. As the situation is ever-evolving, we will continue to reassess our ability to issue permits later in the fall.
We continue to allow low to moderate risk sports activity, on a first come, first served basis on fields across the city according to the New York State reopening guidelines for sports and recreation. ​As always, we request that you ensure that your athletic activity is conducted safely in accordance with the guidelines.

Sincerely,

Edwin B. Rodriguez Jr., MPA

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Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Below is the statement from the NYC Parks Dept. regarding field permits. ENYYSA now say the Fall season is in doubt. Here is their comment: the City of New York has pulled all field permits for soccer. Not looking good on returning to play.

Source directly from NYC Parks Permit office states:

"Thank you for your patience regarding your Fall 2020 NYC Parks athletic field permit application. Due to health and safety concerns we will not be issuing fall athletic field permits at this time. As the situation is ever-evolving, we will continue to reassess our ability to issue permits later in the fall.
We continue to allow low to moderate risk sports activity, on a first come, first served basis on fields across the city according to the New York State reopening guidelines for sports and recreation. ​As always, we request that you ensure that your athletic activity is conducted safely in accordance with the guidelines.

Sincerely,

Edwin B. Rodriguez Jr., MPA

Will this extend to the island? I know many schools are not giving up space to outside entities.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Below is the statement from the NYC Parks Dept. regarding field permits. ENYYSA now say the Fall season is in doubt. Here is their comment: the City of New York has pulled all field permits for soccer. Not looking good on returning to play.

Source directly from NYC Parks Permit office states:

"Thank you for your patience regarding your Fall 2020 NYC Parks athletic field permit application. Due to health and safety concerns we will not be issuing fall athletic field permits at this time. As the situation is ever-evolving, we will continue to reassess our ability to issue permits later in the fall.
We continue to allow low to moderate risk sports activity, on a first come, first served basis on fields across the city according to the New York State reopening guidelines for sports and recreation. ​As always, we request that you ensure that your athletic activity is conducted safely in accordance with the guidelines.

Sincerely,

Edwin B. Rodriguez Jr., MPA

Will this extend to the island? I know many schools are not giving up space to outside entities.

Have any clubs received feedback from school districts where their club have their home fields, and can they share the feedback they are getting from their districts and/or any other entity where they apply for permits?

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Larry Miller #745740 08/20/20 10:20 AM
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Thats what im saying all these adult and youth clubs keep making plans and signing teams up and all these youth teams keep taking parents regostration money, but has an actual league game been scheduled???

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Thats what im saying all these adult and youth clubs keep making plans and signing teams up and all these youth teams keep taking parents regostration money, but has an actual league game been scheduled???


Schedules are being worked on. But they won't do a whole lot of good when the teams inform the leagues in another few weeks that they still don't have home fields.

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Oceanside used their fields all summer. League was a success and the kids had a great time. Can’t see why they won’t be able to use it again in the fall.

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Thats what im saying all these adult and youth clubs keep making plans and signing teams up and all these youth teams keep taking parents regostration money, but has an actual league game been scheduled???


A number of clubs have secured alternate fields. Enough of them to have a season? Who knows.

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i doubt enough adult and youth teams can rely on private field use. This is especially true for teams in the 5 boroughs. Im not familiar with Long Island as much, but I know a majority of mens teams in the cosmopolitan mens league use fields like randalls island where there are like 10 major fields that have games from 8am to 8pm kickoffs all saturday and sunday. Thats a lot of games to find private field use.

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i doubt enough adult and youth teams can rely on private field use. This is especially true for teams in the 5 boroughs. Im not familiar with Long Island as much, but I know a majority of mens teams in the cosmopolitan mens league use fields like randalls island where there are like 10 major fields that have games from 8am to 8pm kickoffs all saturday and sunday. Thats a lot of games to find private field use.

Here is where the small club has an advantage. They can play their whole schedule using a single field.

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i doubt enough adult and youth teams can rely on private field use. This is especially true for teams in the 5 boroughs. Im not familiar with Long Island as much, but I know a majority of mens teams in the cosmopolitan mens league use fields like randalls island where there are like 10 major fields that have games from 8am to 8pm kickoffs all saturday and sunday. Thats a lot of games to find private field use.

Here is where the small club has an advantage. They can play their whole schedule using a single field.

That is an inaccurate statement. Even small clubs need more than one field. You can only play a certain amount of games per day on a field for those team playing full field. Younger travel teams and intramural often share fields so there again is the time element. We all need multiple fields to schedule games effectively and keep all our teams playing. For those that rely on school fields and that have limited public field usage, they are going to have a most difficult time if we play this fall.

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i doubt enough adult and youth teams can rely on private field use. This is especially true for teams in the 5 boroughs. Im not familiar with Long Island as much, but I know a majority of mens teams in the cosmopolitan mens league use fields like randalls island where there are like 10 major fields that have games from 8am to 8pm kickoffs all saturday and sunday. Thats a lot of games to find private field use.

Here is where the small club has an advantage. They can play their whole schedule using a single field.

That is an inaccurate statement. Even small clubs need more than one field. You can only play a certain amount of games per day on a field for those team playing full field. Younger travel teams and intramural often share fields so there again is the time element. We all need multiple fields to schedule games effectively and keep all our teams playing. For those that rely on school fields and that have limited public field usage, they are going to have a most difficult time if we play this fall.


Dean Moriarty, I have seen you now across many different threads posting and what not.....seems to me you have too much time on your hands. Grown man .....pathetic

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A schedule is pointless if teams will not be able to find fields. I can "schedule" a game, but if the home team cannot find a field and for an appropriate time like taking the sunset into consideration, lights, etc... it's pointless.

The game scheduling chairmen is going to have a nightmare and teams may have to share their private fields, play midweek, or have teams just withdraw.

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i doubt enough adult and youth teams can rely on private field use. This is especially true for teams in the 5 boroughs. Im not familiar with Long Island as much, but I know a majority of mens teams in the cosmopolitan mens league use fields like randalls island where there are like 10 major fields that have games from 8am to 8pm kickoffs all saturday and sunday. Thats a lot of games to find private field use.

Here is where the small club has an advantage. They can play their whole schedule using a single field.

That is an inaccurate statement. Even small clubs need more than one field. You can only play a certain amount of games per day on a field for those team playing full field. Younger travel teams and intramural often share fields so there again is the time element. We all need multiple fields to schedule games effectively and keep all our teams playing. For those that rely on school fields and that have limited public field usage, they are going to have a most difficult time if we play this fall.

My club has had to play an entire season using a single field before. We drew the smaller fields within the full size field and use every second of daylight. The field gets torn up something awful but it's doable in a pinch for a small club (10 teams or less).

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i doubt enough adult and youth teams can rely on private field use. This is especially true for teams in the 5 boroughs. Im not familiar with Long Island as much, but I know a majority of mens teams in the cosmopolitan mens league use fields like randalls island where there are like 10 major fields that have games from 8am to 8pm kickoffs all saturday and sunday. Thats a lot of games to find private field use.

Here is where the small club has an advantage. They can play their whole schedule using a single field.

That is an inaccurate statement. Even small clubs need more than one field. You can only play a certain amount of games per day on a field for those team playing full field. Younger travel teams and intramural often share fields so there again is the time element. We all need multiple fields to schedule games effectively and keep all our teams playing. For those that rely on school fields and that have limited public field usage, they are going to have a most difficult time if we play this fall.


Dean Moriarty, I have seen you now across many different threads posting and what not.....seems to me you have too much time on your hands. Grown man .....pathetic
Yeah, well who cares what you think. Maybe it sucks being behind bars. Maybe I'm retired with time and money on my hands. What can I tell you. And for the record, I have to value your opinion before anything you say means anything to me. You're just another gobshite troll posting as much as anybody out there.

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Oceanside used their fields all summer. League was a success and the kids had a great time. Can’t see why they won’t be able to use it again in the fall.

Go ahead and open up that can of worms....Oceanside and OMalley lending out their permits for an unsanctioned league not thru OSU. Larry, have you heard about this?

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Oceanside used their fields all summer. League was a success and the kids had a great time. Can’t see why they won’t be able to use it again in the fall.

Go ahead and open up that can of worms....Oceanside and OMalley lending out their permits for an unsanctioned league not thru OSU. Larry, have you heard about this?
Yes, I am very aware of all involved, however I have standards, and that soccer whore O’Malley is not anyone I either respect or care consider as anyone doing anything for anyone than himself, and the group he pocketed money from is a total non entity.

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Originally Posted by Larry Miller
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Below is the statement from the NYC Parks Dept. regarding field permits. ENYYSA now say the Fall season is in doubt. Here is their comment: the City of New York has pulled all field permits for soccer. Not looking good on returning to play.

Source directly from NYC Parks Permit office states:

"Thank you for your patience regarding your Fall 2020 NYC Parks athletic field permit application. Due to health and safety concerns we will not be issuing fall athletic field permits at this time. As the situation is ever-evolving, we will continue to reassess our ability to issue permits later in the fall.
We continue to allow low to moderate risk sports activity, on a first come, first served basis on fields across the city according to the New York State reopening guidelines for sports and recreation. ​As always, we request that you ensure that your athletic activity is conducted safely in accordance with the guidelines.

Sincerely,

Edwin B. Rodriguez Jr., MPA

Will this extend to the island? I know many schools are not giving up space to outside entities.

Have any clubs received feedback from school districts where their club have their home fields, and can they share the feedback they are getting from their districts and/or any other entity where they apply for permits?

Story about Babylon Soccer Club being denied access in Newsday article kicking around.

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Originally Posted by Larry Miller
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Below is the statement from the NYC Parks Dept. regarding field permits. ENYYSA now say the Fall season is in doubt. Here is their comment: the City of New York has pulled all field permits for soccer. Not looking good on returning to play.

Source directly from NYC Parks Permit office states:

"Thank you for your patience regarding your Fall 2020 NYC Parks athletic field permit application. Due to health and safety concerns we will not be issuing fall athletic field permits at this time. As the situation is ever-evolving, we will continue to reassess our ability to issue permits later in the fall.
We continue to allow low to moderate risk sports activity, on a first come, first served basis on fields across the city according to the New York State reopening guidelines for sports and recreation. ​As always, we request that you ensure that your athletic activity is conducted safely in accordance with the guidelines.

Sincerely,

Edwin B. Rodriguez Jr., MPA

Will this extend to the island? I know many schools are not giving up space to outside entities.

Have any clubs received feedback from school districts where their club have their home fields, and can they share the feedback they are getting from their districts and/or any other entity where they apply for permits?


Connetquot said not any time soon so at least two of the three clubs that use their school fields have rented other fields.

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School districts will rely on the guidance from their attorneys and insurance companies, as they should. Still, the Governor has opened bowling alleys and gyms (!), and will announce HS sports decision next week, so there is still a possibility there is State approval, but local denial.

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School districts will rely on the guidance from their attorneys and insurance companies, as they should. Still, the Governor has opened bowling alleys and gyms (!), and will announce HS sports decision next week, so there is still a possibility there is State approval, but local denial.


FYI. As of this writing the liability renewal insurance certificates from ENYYSA have not been received by any club. The current certificates expire at the end of August. I truly doubt that any district or municipality will extend permits without an update insurance certificate.

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As leagues have been eager to take club team registrations for Spring 2020, and Fall 2020 and Spring 2021, the most important thing to take into account is the safety to the players, children and adults, and not to engage in these high risk activities due to this deadly virus, which the world is suffering from. This is the reason I had made the decision to temporarily cancel the season until we can safely get back to the field.
As owner of the NYCSL, we shall tentatively look to have a late Spring start by the end of May 2021, when there has been a vaccine implemented that stops the virus, as well as people adopting safe practices(Wash hands, properly wearing masks on nose and chin, and safe distancing) to keep our participation safe at all times.
Please be safe

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Ok and if these things don't happen by 2021 then what?

The goal was to flatten the curve and we've done that better than anybody else so I don't understand why we can go back to living Our Lives normally

Many people will not take a vaccine and this will be around for many years even in small levels so with now people not even going to in person College anymore and the schools changing the way they think about giving out education and so little money left for scholarships I really do not think that anybody will ever play organized soccer again and everyone is wasting money by giving it to these trainers because there will be no season

If the season starts after one to two weeks and nfection rates going up or schools closing Etc the leagues will have to cancel and not give their money back

Either we go all-in or don't go at all

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Originally Posted by Coach_Sanchez
As leagues have been eager to take club team registrations for Spring 2020, and Fall 2020 and Spring 2021, the most important thing to take into account is the safety to the players, children and adults, and not to engage in these high risk activities due to this deadly virus, which the world is suffering from. This is the reason I had made the decision to temporarily cancel the season until we can safely get back to the field.
As owner of the NYCSL, we shall tentatively look to have a late Spring start by the end of May 2021, when there has been a vaccine implemented that stops the virus, as well as people adopting safe practices(Wash hands, properly wearing masks on nose and chin, and safe distancing) to keep our participation safe at all times.
Please be safe

Director of NYCSL
Rudolf Sanchez

Does this mean there will be no Fall NYCSL season at all?

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What about baseball, can they play, or is nyc just denying soccer field permits

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No Fall Season from the NYCSL. No play, until tentatively in May 2021

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