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EDP takes over NYCSL. NPL Club v Club goes to EDP National League
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Dear Friends in the Soccer Community,

First and foremost, on behalf of the entire NYCSL family we hope you and your loved ones are doing well and staying healthy. The past four months have been a very difficult time for all of us. Not only did we have to face COVID-19, we had to do so in a region that experienced the highest number of cases nationwide. Thanks to first responders, front-line workers, and all in the community who enabled our region to come as far as we have in facing this pandemic.

Approximately two months ago, as I was watching Governor Cuomo on TV and heard him say the following, “disruption gives opportunity to new solutions”. Meaning, when a community (area) is facing unprecedented challenges, new and better solutions can be implemented. For that reason, and understanding the needs of the player, I have had numerous conversations with our previous “competitors”, and I am proud to let you know that the NYCSL has taken the unprecedented step of unifying our soccer community.

Effective immediately, the NYCSL will become a division of the Cosmopolitan Junior Soccer League. In addition, the NYCSL will be supporting EDP’s management of the North Atlantic EDP Conference of the US Youth Soccer National League. The Conference will provide regional league competition and national showcase opportunities for NYCSL teams and clubs. We look forward to working with EDP on other soccer initiatives as well.

Additionally, our relationship with New York City FC continues to grow through the expansion of the City Youth League (with more initiatives to follow). Beginning in the Fall of 2020, the NYCFC youth league clubs will merge with the NYCSL Premier based teams and clubs to form a fully inclusive and aligned league platform for our youngest age groups (U9-U12).

“We’re extremely excited at the continued evolution of NYCFC’s youth league and what it will mean for player development going forward. In NYCSL we have a natural partner that will help facilitate our vision of expanding the league to create a better, more inclusive competitive platform for all players and clubs in the NY metropolitan area. As we move closer to a return to play, we are confident that the City Youth League will help promote essential sporting values such as inclusivity, integrity, collaboration, and respect.” - Liam Manning (NYCFC Academy Director).

Fall programming for NYCSL, will continue to be under the auspices of the NYCSL platform. Meaning all teams will continue to register on the NYCSL website. As previously stated, we will automatically re-register all teams that were registered with NYCL for the spring 2020 season. New teams will need to register on the NYCSL website as was required in the past.

While making such a decision is never easy, I firmly felt, that based on the current COVID-19 crisis, this decision was the correct one as I believe it will be best for the player.

As always, please feel free to contact me... Looking forward to watching the “kids play”!


Regards

Gary

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Larry Miller #741650 06/24/20 12:32 PM
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NYCLS is now under the ENYYSA umbrella, working with CJSL and EDP. Bravo to them for unifying the landscape in our area. A big win for USYSA and a big loss for US CLUB !

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ECNL still dominates the local market on the elite level which is through US Club. Give it another 30 days and US Club will have boots on the ground in the tri-state market to launch US Club based programming to back fill

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ECNL still dominates the local market on the elite level which is through US Club. Give it another 30 days and US Club will have boots on the ground in the tri-state market to launch US Club based programming to back fill

Exactly where will those boots on the ground be? WYSL is a US Club league. Do you think US Club, which is obviously very pissed would move their ECNL to Westchester and take it away from Long Island? USCS is pissed at EDP to start with and this is a huge kick in the soccer balls for for US Club.

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Does this now mean shared NYCSL and LIJSL players (Different clubs) cannot play for 2 clubs since it's the same pass system ? US Youth

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Did NYCSL's NPL implode when clubs/teams migrated to EDP? It looks like he had no option if he wanted to survive. EDP was going to eat his lunch.

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ECNL still dominates the local market on the elite level which is through US Club. Give it another 30 days and US Club will have boots on the ground in the tri-state market to launch US Club based programming to back fill
No EDP now does. NYCSL and LIJSL have the Long Island Market, CJSL and NYCSL have the city market. EDP is pulling all the best teams from those clubs into their National League platform. ECNL will be gone in less than 2 years, all the better teams will now be moving over to EDP.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Larry,
Does this now mean shared NYCSL and LIJSL players (Different clubs) cannot play for 2 clubs since it's the same pass system ? US Youth


Interesting point. I dont know. I'm sure your club or coach knows.

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Did NYCSL's NPL implode when clubs/teams migrated to EDP? It looks like he had no option if he wanted to survive. EDP was going to eat his lunch.

Clearly, EDP's presence here put a huge hurt on NYCSL. I reported that about 18 months ago. EDP did offer to but NYCSL as I had previously reported, but Gary got in Stever Shilling's face. EDP was no match for NYCSL. Look for Gary to be a caretaker for a year....no way that relationship is milk and cookies.

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Does this now mean shared NYCSL and LIJSL players (Different clubs) cannot play for 2 clubs since it's the same pass system ? US Youth


Interesting point. I dont know. I'm sure your club or coach knows.

I would say depends. Only way players can be dual carded is if one team is playing local league and the other team is playing in a higher level league. I could be wrong but this is how I understand it. But if it’s playing in two separate teams, one in LIJSL and the other in NYCSLthen a no. If it’s one team in NYCSL or LIJSL and then also EDP then yes you can be dual carded.

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Does this now mean shared NYCSL and LIJSL players (Different clubs) cannot play for 2 clubs since it's the same pass system ? US Youth


Interesting point. I dont know. I'm sure your club or coach knows.


Up to the league. ENYYSA allows a secondary pass for a 2nd club, just not for State Cup.

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Larry,
Does this now mean shared NYCSL and LIJSL players (Different clubs) cannot play for 2 clubs since it's the same pass system ? US Youth


Interesting point. I dont know. I'm sure your club or coach knows.

I would say depends. Only way players can be dual carded is if one team is playing local league and the other team is playing in a higher level league. I could be wrong but this is how I understand it. But if it’s playing in two separate teams, one in LIJSL and the other in NYCSLthen a no. If it’s one team in NYCSL or LIJSL and then also EDP then yes you can be dual carded.

But all three of the leagues you reference are USYSA. EDP, NYCSL, & LIJSL are all USYSA and all under ENYYSA if they are NY teams.

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My son plays EDP and LIJSL with no issue.

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Does this mean there will be no NYCSL NY Cup this year or would this be the last one?

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Here is my question.. A lot of teams have already paid NYCSL for league play in the Fall. Will their money be refunded?

I have had people reach out to me thinking that their money is now gone.

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Does this mean there will be no NYCSL NY Cup this year or would this be the last one?

There can be since the NY Cup was not a real state cup, but rather the name of a tournament. I think a better question will be if ENYYSA will allow that fake state cup to run or make it change their name?

Just be clear that while the release tries to say how you, the paying public was their concern nothing could be farther from the truth. Grossman has sold out of his employment agency business and now has all but abandoned NYCSL and is just hanging on for the transition. You and your child were not what he considered past your dollar bills or what EDP paid him for this deal.

Like I said in other posts. Youth soccer on Long Island is all dominated by these millionaire business guys and money talks is what matters.

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ECNL still dominates the local market on the elite level which is through US Club. Give it another 30 days and US Club will have boots on the ground in the tri-state market to launch US Club based programming to back fill
No EDP now does. NYCSL and LIJSL have the Long Island Market, CJSL and NYCSL have the city market. EDP is pulling all the best teams from those clubs into their National League platform. ECNL will be gone in less than 2 years, all the better teams will now be moving over to EDP.

You realize ECNL is a national league. They're not concerned in the least with what EDP does in the PA to MA corridor.

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Fist Paul “Slick” Riley now Gary Grossman! Can’t hate them for making money! Business is business. If someone came to you Larry to buy you out, I’m sure if the price is right you’d sell.

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Fist Paul “Slick” Riley now Gary Grossman! Can’t hate them for making money! Business is business. If someone came to you Larry to buy you out, I’m sure if the price is right you’d sell.


Yes, I would sell, but I would not sell to just anyone. In other words, I would not sell to EDP. I would sell to LIJSL. I would sell to someone or an organization that will keep the free flow information coming.

Notice how in 30 years with a [****] load of money to be made as a club or running tournaments BOTN never took advantage of its comprehensive user base and audience to profit off of families.

BTW, are you interested in buying BOTN, and all it's internet assets?

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ECNL still dominates the local market on the elite level which is through US Club. Give it another 30 days and US Club will have boots on the ground in the tri-state market to launch US Club based programming to back fill
No EDP now does. NYCSL and LIJSL have the Long Island Market, CJSL and NYCSL have the city market. EDP is pulling all the best teams from those clubs into their National League platform. ECNL will be gone in less than 2 years, all the better teams will now be moving over to EDP.

You realize ECNL is a national league. They're not concerned in the least with what EDP does in the PA to MA corridor.

That is a clueless question. Hold that thought for a few months or into the Spring. ECNL is US Club, and if you don't think ECNL has a target on its back from EDP and USYSA then you must be new to the scene.

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Good luck getting $$ back

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ECNL is doing quite well nationwide - especially in capturing several former Boys DA teams. ECNL is not going anywhere.

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ECNL still dominates the local market on the elite level which is through US Club. Give it another 30 days and US Club will have boots on the ground in the tri-state market to launch US Club based programming to back fill
No EDP now does. NYCSL and LIJSL have the Long Island Market, CJSL and NYCSL have the city market. EDP is pulling all the best teams from those clubs into their National League platform. ECNL will be gone in less than 2 years, all the better teams will now be moving over to EDP.

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Based on my reading of this, eventually, the NYCSL “brand” will disappear along with the NY Cup. As was stated many times, the NY Cup was never a real state cup. ENYSSA will run their state cup competitions and never reference that name again unless they feel that it is marketable in some way.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Based on my reading of this, eventually, the NYCSL “brand” will disappear along with the NY Cup. As was stated many times, the NY Cup was never a real state cup. ENYSSA will run their state cup competitions and never reference that name again unless they feel that it is marketable in some way.

The statement from NYCSL never mentions ENYYSA, just CJSL, EDP, and USYSA. To whatever extent the "NY Cup" runs, I would not expect it to be an ENYYSA State Cup, but merely a CJSL League Cup like LIJSL's.

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what does it mean for long island teams that were in NY CLUB? Less games, in LI there are so many officials, now that will not happen.

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