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Re: SUSA Refund Letter
Anonymous #739615 05/28/20 10:25 AM
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gotta say for the ECNL teams that don't play in the Fall very much (they played high school) and their only season is Spring...they really got shafted. WHat did they actually get for their $3K or more.
AT least with the DA clubs they had a fall season so they got some of their money's worth.

Since you asked, my kid got training 3-4X a week starting in October, played in 4 showcases/tournaments (2-3 games per), had a private college ID clinic and squeaked in 4 league games. Once Covid hit, she got daily assignments that she recorded and sent to her coach and received feedback on.
So while the DA clubs got 9-10 league games in, vs. my kid's 4 league games...ECNL teams seemingly played in more showcases, so it actually evens out. Oh and in case you didn't know, DA doesn't exist anymore.DA folded. So OK, maybe my kid played a game or 2 less than DA clubs in the year that an international pandemic cut youth sports short, but the light at the end of the tunnel is the fact that she knows she has a solid league to compete in when all of this settles and won't be a 2X guinea pig for any club jumping blindly into GAL. Wanna talk about getting shafted? Let's start there!

Not at the HS age they didn't. Maybe got one day a week training, and not until later in the HS season. HS players got shafted on any refunds / credits.

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They have now entered “in over their heads” territory. Major capital projects /obligations, scaled workforce commitments/contractual requirements, distressed asset acquisition, cultural clashing, etc. It’s a classic case and the public relations mgt on this issue is simply an illustration of that. This easily could have been handled in a way that cast the club in an exceptional light instead of this. Opportunity lost and more to come.

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gotta say for the ECNL teams that don't play in the Fall very much (they played high school) and their only season is Spring...they really got shafted. WHat did they actually get for their $3K or more.
AT least with the DA clubs they had a fall season so they got some of their money's worth.

Since you asked, my kid got training 3-4X a week starting in October, played in 4 showcases/tournaments (2-3 games per), had a private college ID clinic and squeaked in 4 league games. Once Covid hit, she got daily assignments that she recorded and sent to her coach and received feedback on.
So while the DA clubs got 9-10 league games in, vs. my kid's 4 league games...ECNL teams seemingly played in more showcases, so it actually evens out. Oh and in case you didn't know, DA doesn't exist anymore.DA folded. So OK, maybe my kid played a game or 2 less than DA clubs in the year that an international pandemic cut youth sports short, but the light at the end of the tunnel is the fact that she knows she has a solid league to compete in when all of this settles and won't be a 2X guinea pig for any club jumping blindly into GAL. Wanna talk about getting shafted? Let's start there!

Not at the HS age they didn't. Maybe got one day a week training, and not until later in the HS season. HS players got shafted on any refunds / credits.

My kid is HS age and started training 3-4X a week in mid October as HS stated winding down. It started the final week of regular play and went through playoffs, but coach excused kids that were in it up to their eyeballs with HS. I suspect you're not really with Susa, because I know it wasn't just my kid's team that had that training schedule.

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gotta say for the ECNL teams that don't play in the Fall very much (they played high school) and their only season is Spring...they really got shafted. WHat did they actually get for their $3K or more.
AT least with the DA clubs they had a fall season so they got some of their money's worth.

Since you asked, my kid got training 3-4X a week starting in October, played in 4 showcases/tournaments (2-3 games per), had a private college ID clinic and squeaked in 4 league games. Once Covid hit, she got daily assignments that she recorded and sent to her coach and received feedback on.
So while the DA clubs got 9-10 league games in, vs. my kid's 4 league games...ECNL teams seemingly played in more showcases, so it actually evens out. Oh and in case you didn't know, DA doesn't exist anymore.DA folded. So OK, maybe my kid played a game or 2 less than DA clubs in the year that an international pandemic cut youth sports short, but the light at the end of the tunnel is the fact that she knows she has a solid league to compete in when all of this settles and won't be a 2X guinea pig for any club jumping blindly into GAL. Wanna talk about getting shafted? Let's start there!

Not at the HS age they didn't. Maybe got one day a week training, and not until later in the HS season. HS players got shafted on any refunds / credits.

And again, the wheels keep spinning and spinning. Susa marketing / trainer trying to spin it some more. Another reason not getting a refund.they have to pay this guy who stalks the boards trying to mitigate negative PR.

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They have now entered “in over their heads” territory. Major capital projects /obligations, scaled workforce commitments/contractual requirements, distressed asset acquisition, cultural clashing, etc. It’s a classic case and the public relations mgt on this issue is simply an illustration of that. This easily could have been handled in a way that cast the club in an exceptional light instead of this. Opportunity lost and more to come.

The narrative of all these angry SUSA posts is quite interesting. For months there was an angle on this site that anything Fury related was receiving all of the attention and wrath. Now after the acquisition, the angry posts are all directed at SUSA. If you love the club you are at or moving to, why does no one demonstrate how great the alternatives are? Where are all the posts about the loved clubs in these threads? Why is there always a targeted enemy when the truth all of these clubs want your money and each has an angle to get it. Start promoting what you like rather than what you hate. You're giving interest to something you wish to see the demise of. Thanks for venting, but now what? What exactly would be the best end result? The club folds? Then what? Its exhausting reading posts that are always negative and never highlight the good. It's like watching the news at this point. I suppose misery loves company.

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They have now entered “in over their heads” territory. Major capital projects /obligations, scaled workforce commitments/contractual requirements, distressed asset acquisition, cultural clashing, etc. It’s a classic case and the public relations mgt on this issue is simply an illustration of that. This easily could have been handled in a way that cast the club in an exceptional light instead of this. Opportunity lost and more to come.

The narrative of all these angry SUSA posts is quite interesting. For months there was an angle on this site that anything Fury related was receiving all of the attention and wrath. Now after the acquisition, the angry posts are all directed at SUSA. If you love the club you are at or moving to, why does no one demonstrate how great the alternatives are? Where are all the posts about the loved clubs in these threads? Why is there always a targeted enemy when the truth all of these clubs want your money and each has an angle to get it. Start promoting what you like rather than what you hate. You're giving interest to something you wish to see the demise of. Thanks for venting, but now what? What exactly would be the best end result? The club folds? Then what? Its exhausting reading posts that are always negative and never highlight the good. It's like watching the news at this point. I suppose misery loves company.
a company is ripping off their customers, and we should be all positive? There is a time and place for positive and negative. SESA and LISC did the right thing and acknowledged for it

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I am positive we will beat the bulldogs every-time we see them.

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[quote=Anonymous]They have now entered “in over their heads” territory. Major capital projects /obligations, scaled workforce commitments/contractual requirements, distressed asset acquisition, cultural clashing, etc. It’s a classic case and the public relations mgt on this issue is simply an illustration of that. This easily could have been handled in a way that cast the club in an exceptional light instead of this. Opportunity lost and more to come.


a company is ripping off their customers, and we should be all positive? There is a time and place for positive and negative. SESA and LISC did the right thing and acknowledged for it

When a reply does not have the context to support it what are you hoping people achieve by reading your posts? Please explain how the clubs mentioned did the right thing. There's the positive. Exploit what the two clubs you mentioned did right. If these two clubs set a president, let's hold all of the other clubs accountable as well and let these clubs be the example. What is the right thing they did? What about EM? What about NYSC? What about NYCFC? The clubs in question have hundreds of families between them on all age levels. Where are the good stories? It just seems to be a single rant about one club at the moment. This however is the circus that is youth sports.

Also, if you are angered by what this club has done to you or your family - why be anonymous and not specific about your story?

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[quote=Anonymous]They have now entered “in over their heads” territory. Major capital projects /obligations, scaled workforce commitments/contractual requirements, distressed asset acquisition, cultural clashing, etc. It’s a classic case and the public relations mgt on this issue is simply an illustration of that. This easily could have been handled in a way that cast the club in an exceptional light instead of this. Opportunity lost and more to come.


a company is ripping off their customers, and we should be all positive? There is a time and place for positive and negative. SESA and LISC did the right thing and acknowledged for it

When a reply does not have the context to support it what are you hoping people achieve by reading your posts? Please explain how the clubs mentioned did the right thing. There's the positive. Exploit what the two clubs you mentioned did right. If these two clubs set a president, let's hold all of the other clubs accountable as well and let these clubs be the example. What is the right thing they did? What about EM? What about NYSC? What about NYCFC? The clubs in question have hundreds of families between them on all age levels. Where are the good stories? It just seems to be a single rant about one club at the moment. This however is the circus that is youth sports.

Also, if you are angered by what this club has done to you or your family - why be anonymous and not specific about your story?

no they couldnt set a president.
Again, this is a post by A SUSA employee. You are anonymous as well. Its incredible. not Credible.

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[quote=Anonymous]They have now entered “in over their heads” territory. Major capital projects /obligations, scaled workforce commitments/contractual requirements, distressed asset acquisition, cultural clashing, etc. It’s a classic case and the public relations mgt on this issue is simply an illustration of that. This easily could have been handled in a way that cast the club in an exceptional light instead of this. Opportunity lost and more to come.


a company is ripping off their customers, and we should be all positive? There is a time and place for positive and negative. SESA and LISC did the right thing and acknowledged for it

When a reply does not have the context to support it what are you hoping people achieve by reading your posts? Please explain how the clubs mentioned did the right thing. There's the positive. Exploit what the two clubs you mentioned did right. If these two clubs set a president, let's hold all of the other clubs accountable as well and let these clubs be the example. What is the right thing they did? What about EM? What about NYSC? What about NYCFC? The clubs in question have hundreds of families between them on all age levels. Where are the good stories? It just seems to be a single rant about one club at the moment. This however is the circus that is youth sports.

Also, if you are angered by what this club has done to you or your family - why be anonymous and not specific about your story?

no they couldnt set a president.
Again, this is a post by A SUSA employee. You are anonymous as well. Its incredible. not Credible.

Correct...when I saw the post I knew. I cant comment on their soccer quality as I am not qualified. I can, however comment on their marketing and public relations in one word. SUCKS. It is curious that a company would put so much capital into a business and little or none into marketing and press. Apparently they have turned that over to some soccer person who clearly doesn't know whathe is doing or has the ability to understand the audience he needs to positively reach.

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[quote=Anonymous]They have now entered “in over their heads” territory. Major capital projects /obligations, scaled workforce commitments/contractual requirements, distressed asset acquisition, cultural clashing, etc. It’s a classic case and the public relations mgt on this issue is simply an illustration of that. This easily could have been handled in a way that cast the club in an exceptional light instead of this. Opportunity lost and more to come.


a company is ripping off their customers, and we should be all positive? There is a time and place for positive and negative. SESA and LISC did the right thing and acknowledged for it

When a reply does not have the context to support it what are you hoping people achieve by reading your posts? Please explain how the clubs mentioned did the right thing. There's the positive. Exploit what the two clubs you mentioned did right. If these two clubs set a president, let's hold all of the other clubs accountable as well and let these clubs be the example. What is the right thing they did? What about EM? What about NYSC? What about NYCFC? The clubs in question have hundreds of families between them on all age levels. Where are the good stories? It just seems to be a single rant about one club at the moment. This however is the circus that is youth sports.

Also, if you are angered by what this club has done to you or your family - why be anonymous and not specific about your story?
SImple. Unlike you, I and many others making the comments have read all the posts. The answer to your questions are in the posts. Also, check the subject of the post, this will explain why the majority of comments are about one club.
Keep trying but you will fail.

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It is called opening the book and studying. For all you you soccer scholarship crazed people out there....... On my third child and he loves playing for Susa because he has been playing at the level he should be. But after this, with two older brothers in college, one Ivy and one Ivy caliber scool, he will be done with Susa. He will be in just as good of a college as them..and not for soccer, rather his brain.

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[quote=Anonymous]They have now entered “in over their heads” territory. Major capital projects /obligations, scaled workforce commitments/contractual requirements, distressed asset acquisition, cultural clashing, etc. It’s a classic case and the public relations mgt on this issue is simply an illustration of that. This easily could have been handled in a way that cast the club in an exceptional light instead of this. Opportunity lost and more to come.


a company is ripping off their customers, and we should be all positive? There is a time and place for positive and negative. SESA and LISC did the right thing and acknowledged for it

When a reply does not have the context to support it what are you hoping people achieve by reading your posts? Please explain how the clubs mentioned did the right thing. There's the positive. Exploit what the two clubs you mentioned did right. If these two clubs set a president, let's hold all of the other clubs accountable as well and let these clubs be the example. What is the right thing they did? What about EM? What about NYSC? What about NYCFC? The clubs in question have hundreds of families between them on all age levels. Where are the good stories? It just seems to be a single rant about one club at the moment. This however is the circus that is youth sports.

Also, if you are angered by what this club has done to you or your family - why be anonymous and not specific about your story?

22 year old intern. Nice try. Now go get a real job

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I thought Alby players were guaranteed top spots and will play. Is that not true?
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I thought Alby players were guaranteed top spots and will play. Is that not true?
Alby players not that good

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Acceptance packages are out from SUSA . 48 hours to pay up and the fine print has changed even more from last year .

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I accepted already best club on Long Island hands down. Best trainers and best facilities. Susa will be the new New York Cosmos in a few years with pro teams. I’m excited with all the buzz surrounding my sons club. Passion starts at early age and will last past his playing days at the club. Glen and Moussa are businessman but their giving Long Island what it needs a major soccer club. Of course it’s pricey but you get what you pay. For those complaining please pack your bags don’t accept and take your negative energy away from Susa.

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Who cares what was achieved in the fall & winter. The bottom line is that we were shorted 3-4 months of training, games & tournaments & we are not being compensated for it. Zoom meetings & assignments that need to be handed into the coaches, that’s a bunch if [****] & we should not be charged for that. So again where the hell is our $$$$ SUSA?????

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I accepted already best club on Long Island hands down. Best trainers and best facilities. Susa will be the new New York Cosmos in a few years with pro teams. I’m excited with all the buzz surrounding my sons club. Passion starts at early age and will last past his playing days at the club. Glen and Moussa are businessman but their giving Long Island what it needs a major soccer club. Of course it’s pricey but you get what you pay. For those complaining please pack your bags don’t accept and take your negative energy away from Susa.


Here is another example of SUSA spin. This is NOT from a SUSA parent. If this is from a SUSA parent you have violated the your contract with SUSA. SUSA will have pro team? That really is very funny. Again, you are not a SUSA parent because you are not allowed to post here and you agreed to that. Here is exactly what you agreed to;

SOCIAL MEDIA: No player or parent shall directly or indirectly write or post any information, good or bad relating to any SUSA team or the players on any team. No player or parent shall post any negative comments, pictures or gestures on any social media outlet.

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Who cares what was achieved in the fall & winter. The bottom line is that we were shorted 3-4 months of training, games & tournaments & we are not being compensated for it. Zoom meetings & assignments that need to be handed into the coaches, that’s a bunch if [****] & we should not be charged for that. So again where the hell is our $$$$ SUSA?????



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Who cares what was achieved in the fall & winter. The bottom line is that we were shorted 3-4 months of training, games & tournaments & we are not being compensated for it. Zoom meetings & assignments that need to be handed into the coaches, that’s a bunch if [****] & we should not be charged for that. So again where the hell is our $$$$ SUSA?????

EXACTLY!! You took the words right out of my mouth.

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SUSA already asking for money for fall teams. I for one, will not be paying yet. Who knows where this whole thing is going and am I going to set myself up for another “credit” should there be no soccer for fall?? Crazy.

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I accepted already best club on Long Island hands down. Best trainers and best facilities. Susa will be the new New York Cosmos in a few years with pro teams. I’m excited with all the buzz surrounding my sons club. Passion starts at early age and will last past his playing days at the club. Glen and Moussa are businessman but their giving Long Island what it needs a major soccer club. Of course it’s pricey but you get what you pay. For those complaining please pack your bags don’t accept and take your negative energy away from Susa.


Here is another example of SUSA spin. This is NOT from a SUSA parent. If this is from a SUSA parent you have violated the your contract with SUSA. SUSA will have pro team? That really is very funny. Again, you are not a SUSA parent because you are not allowed to post here and you agreed to that. Here is exactly what you agreed to;

SOCIAL MEDIA: No player or parent shall directly or indirectly write or post any information, good or bad relating to any SUSA team or the players on any team. No player or parent shall post any negative comments, pictures or gestures on any social media outlet.

HAHA, i don't no know what is funnier, that quote or Trump's battle with Twitter.
So, every SUSA parent has read and followed that? That is why is is called ANNONYMOUS posting (LOL)

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I thought Alby players were guaranteed top spots and will play. Is that not true?
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I thought Alby players were guaranteed top spots and will play. Is that not true?
Alby players not that good
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I thought Alby players were guaranteed top spots and will play. Is that not true?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought Alby players were guaranteed top spots and will play. Is that not true?
Alby players not that good
Those Alby players are in for a rude awakening. Already packed rosters and no room for the PR left overs. Those DA teams were AWFUL! These poor kids were promised the world by PR, again, and will find that Susa is not too welcoming to mediocre interlopers. Good luck being rostered only half the season for all that cash.

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I foresee the NY Attorney General stepping in at some point on the part of families to investigate this practice. It’s not just Susa but all clubs who do this. Whether it’s soccer, Lax, B-ball, this will go deeper. It will take time but it will happen.
It depends on the agreement when you signed up. has anyone looked at the club's refund policy at the time they took the payments?

And be sure to check out the financial responsibility language on the website

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wonder what their business interruption insurance policy says about all this?

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