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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #730828 12/11/19 01:36 AM
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Most of the DI All State selections did not have a lot of points . They played on winning teams with plenty of support. Meanwhile some kids that had double and triple the points did not get picked , while playing similar or tougher schedules. They were also on bad teams that they carried to playoffs .


I’m sorry what?

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #730834 12/11/19 09:31 AM
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Most of the DI All State selections did not have a lot of points . They played on winning teams with plenty of support. Meanwhile some kids that had double and triple the points did not get picked , while playing similar or tougher schedules. They were also on bad teams that they carried to playoffs .


I’m sorry what?


My kid didn't get named. So whaaaa whaaaaa whaaaa. Get it now?

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #730838 12/11/19 11:00 AM
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Most of the DI All State selections did not have a lot of points . They played on winning teams with plenty of support. Meanwhile some kids that had double and triple the points did not get picked , while playing similar or tougher schedules. They were also on bad teams that they carried to playoffs .


I’m sorry what?


My kid didn't get named. So whaaaa whaaaaa whaaaa. Get it now?


Overall the list was far less obnoxious than years past. Sure, some great players got overlooked, most obvious being the shortage of Defensive players-But, there was a pretty decent uptick in the # of GKs recognized, so that's good! Here are some points of interest-
-Class AA High School POY isn't even in HS yet, she's in 8th grade
-Multiple top 5 "leading scorers" from Nassau & Suffolk did not make the list
-Only 2 players from State Champion SWR get a nod-2nd & 6th team
-Close to 60 players from LI named All State, less than 45 of them were named top 100 by Newsday including several 1st & 2nd team picks

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Larry Miller] #730850 12/11/19 01:29 PM
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Most of the DI All State selections did not have a lot of points . They played on winning teams with plenty of support. Meanwhile some kids that had double and triple the points did not get picked , while playing similar or tougher schedules. They were also on bad teams that they carried to playoffs .


I’m sorry what?


My kid didn't get named. So whaaaa whaaaaa whaaaa. Get it now?


Overall the list was far less obnoxious than years past. Sure, some great players got overlooked, most obvious being the shortage of Defensive players-But, there was a pretty decent uptick in the # of GKs recognized, so that's good! Here are some points of interest-
-Class AA High School POY isn't even in HS yet, she's in 8th grade
-Multiple top 5 "leading scorers" from Nassau & Suffolk did not make the list
-Only 2 players from State Champion SWR get a nod-2nd & 6th team
-Close to 60 players from LI named All State, less than 45 of them were named top 100 by Newsday including several 1st & 2nd team picks




So how is the All-State list determined?

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Larry Miller] #730856 12/11/19 02:48 PM
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Newsday list is coaches favorites, not always the best player. Look at the Newsday lists stats you will see some only perform againist weeker teams.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #730858 12/11/19 03:05 PM
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coaches that have the most influence decide . In most cases it’s not based on talent .

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #730860 12/11/19 03:41 PM
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coaches that have the most influence decide . In most cases it’s not based on talent .


Eh, I disagree...like someone else said, there's some that got overlooked, but for the most part the kids I've seen play that made this list are all pretty deserving.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #730861 12/11/19 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Newsday list is coaches favorites, not always the best player. Look at the Newsday lists stats you will see some only perform againist weeker teams.


Newsday also favors certain teams and players and ignores players from coaches they aren't chummy with:)

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Larry Miller] #730980 12/14/19 02:34 PM
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It’s all politics. If you have politics on your side everything else does not matter.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Larry Miller] #730984 12/14/19 04:48 PM
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Senior Girls getting all county awards that aren't even going on to play in college. Gotta love this biased system.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #730989 12/14/19 06:48 PM
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Senior Girls getting all county awards that aren't even going on to play in college. Gotta love this biased system.


How is that biased? Being biased would be if you gave awards ONLY to kids that were going on to play in college. Doesn't matter what the kid does off that HS field...club doesn't matter, collegiate aspirations, none of it. If the kid produced on that HS field, that's all that matters. I'm sorry if your kid did not get the award you believe she deserved, but that's no reason to go after other kids who got it instead.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #731001 12/15/19 03:56 PM
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Senior Girls getting all county awards that aren't even going on to play in college. Gotta love this biased system.


What the hell difference does it make if they choose not to play in college? Some amazing players do not want to play college soccer. They don't deserve an award if they aren't playing? What if they are a 3 sport athlete and are playing a different sport in college? What a dumb statement!

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #731003 12/15/19 06:16 PM
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Senior Girls getting all county awards that aren't even going on to play in college. Gotta love this biased system.


What the hell difference does it make if they choose not to play in college? Some amazing players do not want to play college soccer. They don't deserve an award if they aren't playing? What if they are a 3 sport athlete and are playing a different sport in college? What a dumb statement!


Suck it, you know damn well HS soccer is equivalent to cyo. So these players getting awards for scoring a hundred goals against rec teams is a sham. Amazing players not wanting to play college? Amazing against cyo rec teams maybe.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Larry Miller] #731013 12/16/19 10:18 AM
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Senior Girls getting all county awards that aren't even going on to play in college. Gotta love this biased system.


What the hell difference does it make if they choose not to play in college? Some amazing players do not want to play college soccer. They don't deserve an award if they aren't playing? What if they are a 3 sport athlete and are playing a different sport in college? What a dumb statement!


Suck it, you know damn well HS soccer is equivalent to cyo. So these players getting awards for scoring a hundred goals against rec teams is a sham. Amazing players not wanting to play college? Amazing against cyo rec teams maybe.



Thee are some absolute morons in here!

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Larry Miller] #731035 12/16/19 02:38 PM
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Senior Girls getting all county awards that aren't even going on to play in college. Gotta love this biased system.


What the hell difference does it make if they choose not to play in college? Some amazing players do not want to play college soccer. They don't deserve an award if they aren't playing? What if they are a 3 sport athlete and are playing a different sport in college? What a dumb statement!


Suck it, you know damn well HS soccer is equivalent to cyo. So these players getting awards for scoring a hundred goals against rec teams is a sham. Amazing players not wanting to play college? Amazing against cyo rec teams maybe.



Thee are some absolute morons in here!


And guys like you lead the pack until the system is changed. Enjoy your plaque.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #732325 01/28/20 04:55 AM
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Luckily many college coaches disagree with you. They like the All American’s game very much

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #732388 01/28/20 06:38 PM
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It took you more more than a month to reply. Jeez. Go back to sleep this is over

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #732472 01/30/20 02:51 AM
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Sorry first time on in a long time. Just had to point out how off the original posters opinion was, and should probably never weigh in on talent ever again. People just can’t be happy for someone else who is flourishing. I realize it’s human nature but it is sad.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #732524 01/31/20 08:46 AM
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Sorry first time on in a long time. Just had to point out how off the original posters opinion was, and should probably never weigh in on talent ever again. People just can’t be happy for someone else who is flourishing. I realize it’s human nature but it is sad.


Flourishing is a relative term here. Stat compiling against people who will never lace up a cleat after HS is well, nice, but miles away from placing the player in a “skilled” category. It’s the equivalent of winning a debate against someone with a debilitating stutter. (I.e. the lawyer in My Cousin Vinny)

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #732746 02/05/20 04:39 AM
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Maybe were not talking about the same All American with a full ride.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #732749 02/05/20 09:10 AM
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Maybe were not talking about the same All American with a full ride.



Do you think getting that full ride had to do with playing on her HS team or club team?

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #732752 02/05/20 09:54 AM
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Just laughable that you still have parents debating high school soccer. The minute the season ends the vast majority of these players have moved on to either another school sport or there soccer clubs and getting ready for there upcoming tournaments and season. Most could care less about the awards they get from the season. All they wanted to do is participate in a school sport with there friends. Playing for there schools are a big deal for them socially. Playing in front of class mates and parents are a big deal. Walking around school before and after games is a big deal. These are the memories that matter for them. Here we are months later reading parents who are still bitter about the outcome as well as the awards that were given out. Who cares? Clearly, parents care. When the season ended I exhaled that my kid was injury free and had a great experience. My memory was on the National letter of intent signing day when my kid signed her next 4 years to playing in college. Playing high school was a great experience and lasting memories. Now it’s time for everyone to move on.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Larry Miller] #732760 02/05/20 10:59 AM
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Just laughable that you still have parents debating high school soccer. The minute the season ends the vast majority of these players have moved on to either another school sport or there soccer clubs and getting ready for there upcoming tournaments and season. Most could care less about the awards they get from the season. All they wanted to do is participate in a school sport with there friends. Playing for there schools are a big deal for them socially. Playing in front of class mates and parents are a big deal. Walking around school before and after games is a big deal. These are the memories that matter for them. Here we are months later reading parents who are still bitter about the outcome as well as the awards that were given out. Who cares? Clearly, parents care. When the season ended I exhaled that my kid was injury free and had a great experience. My memory was on the National letter of intent signing day when my kid signed her next 4 years to playing in college. Playing high school was a great experience and lasting memories. Now it’s time for everyone to move on.


Well said.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #732811 02/05/20 10:47 PM
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Save the lecture. The response was only because some moron said they weren’t impressed by a specific player. I just pointed out maybe their judgement is a bit off since she is a highly decorated player and fully committed collegiate player. To explain the difference between HS and club is common sense. It would just be nice for people to be happy for a Local girl’s accomplishments instead of tearing into them.

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Re: GIRLS High School (School Ball) Fall 2019 [Re: Larry Miller] #734081 03/06/20 02:10 AM
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Kid going into freshman year of high school in the fall. Do most high school varsity programs hold summer workouts heading into pre-season training/tryouts? Do most high schools have everyone tryout for varsity and then assign players to JV or cut? Local high school seems to have a decent team and a good coach - should I just reach out to them and inquire about how incoming freshman should approach the summer and preseason tryouts? I don't want to come off as "one of those" parents - but want to be sure my kid is able to tryout for varsity and let them determine if she is good enough or if she needs to be on JV.

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