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Re: B2010:U10 Fall 2019/Spring 2020
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Dix Hills used to produce quality teams! The club is garbage under the new regime!


The club is NOT garbage. Martin Targett is working hard to overcome the scumbags, Bob Rocco and Cordt Weinstein, who were the garbage that killed a once highly respected club. Kozy is a whole other story, and you can be assured I have shared my thoughts on Kozy with Martin. The club is fine, but I hope they find a new DOC.

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Re: B2010:U10 Fall 2019/Spring 2020
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Barca Management will surely address this parent appropriately. This parent’s actions are not representative of #BARCABEST.

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Barca Management will surely address this parent appropriately. This parent’s actions are not representative of #BARCABEST.

What was the problem? Parents can be jerks, but usually there is some incident that causes them to charge the field.

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Re: B2010:U10 Fall 2019/Spring 2020
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Quote: YOU ARE A BARCA PARENT. EVERYONE SAW THE BARCA DAD RUN UP TO THE REFEREE AND GRAB HIM. OTHER BARCA PARENTS HELD HIM BACK.

Reply: If the Barca parent really did grab the referee, he should be charged with assault and banned for life. There is no excuse for that behavior at any age let alone a U10 game. This dad likely just ruined his sons soccer experience because of his own selfishness and stupidity. Would not be shocked if the boy never wanted to play again. How sad is that parents?

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Re: B2010:U10 Fall 2019/Spring 2020
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Quote: YOU ARE A BARCA PARENT. EVERYONE SAW THE BARCA DAD RUN UP TO THE REFEREE AND GRAB HIM. OTHER BARCA PARENTS HELD HIM BACK.

Reply: If the Barca parent really did grab the referee, he should be charged with assault and banned for life. There is no excuse for that behavior at any age let alone a U10 game. This dad likely just ruined his sons soccer experience because of his own selfishness and stupidity. Would not be shocked if the boy never wanted to play again. How sad is that parents?


If what say really happened, maybe the parent wants to buy Barca since it appears the club is for sale, and that way he can be the big Barca kahuna.

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Re: B2010:U10 Fall 2019/Spring 2020
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Who can i contact in interest of purchasing the club ? I'm interested actually

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Re: B2010:U10 Fall 2019/Spring 2020
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who can i contact in interest of purchasing the club ? I'm interested actually


Here is a question....exactly what would you be buying if you bought Barca?

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Re: B2010:U10 Fall 2019/Spring 2020
Larry Miller #728111 10/15/19 09:22 AM
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Cash flow and an assignment of whatever contracts they have. Who isn’t looking for cash flow in a business.

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Cash flow and an assignment of whatever contracts they have. Who isn’t looking for cash flow in a business.


What if I told you that our reporting claims keith is not making money, plus what contracts do believe they have and with whom? I am trying to understand what assets they are holding and BOTN doesn't see any, which doesn't mean they dont exist, but we can't find them.

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Larry Miller #728115 10/15/19 09:42 AM
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Larry, I think the forum would appreciate it if this narrative was moved out of the 2010 thread. It took me a while to stumble upon it after reading the BOTN ticker.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Larry, I think the forum would appreciate it if this narrative was moved out of the 2010 thread. It took me a while to stumble upon it after reading the BOTN ticker.


There is no dedicated thread for this subject since in the big picture while the the owner is looking to sell this "FOR SALE" sign has been up for close to a year. Barca, I'm told used an NDA with entities they spoke with so information was well hid. The sale news is mostly targeted at the parents who are still believing all the unkept promises....the only asset the club has that I can see are the players, and no club owns their players.

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Originally Posted by Larry Miller
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Cash flow and an assignment of whatever contracts they have. Who isn’t looking for cash flow in a business.


What if I told you that our reporting claims keith is not making money, plus what contracts do believe they have and with whom? I am trying to understand what assets they are holding and BOTN doesn't see any, which doesn't mean they dont exist, but we can't find them.



If they are up for sale there is going to be large outflow of kids. These families have shown zero loyalty to their former clubs. They will be shopping for new jerseys in huge numbers. They bled a large number of kids this past summer.

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Cash flow and an assignment of whatever contracts they have. Who isn’t looking for cash flow in a business.


What if I told you that our reporting claims keith is not making money, plus what contracts do believe they have and with whom? I am trying to understand what assets they are holding and BOTN doesn't see any, which doesn't mean they dont exist, but we can't find them.



If they are up for sale there is going to be large outflow of kids. These families have shown zero loyalty to their former clubs. They will be shopping for new jerseys in huge numbers. They bled a large number of kids this past summer.


If I were a Barca parent I sure would want to confront Keith Delucia who we believe is the owner and ask him what the story is, and hope he tells them the truth.

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Re: B2010:U10 Fall 2019/Spring 2020
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There is nothing to "buy" with Barca, just the right to use the name and then pay royalties to the real Barca. No contracts for players and no tangible assets they own. What would your ROI be?

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They have a contract with someone to, at a minimum, use the Barca name. I’m sure that agreement details other benefits and responsibilities as well. I’m also certain that agreement allows the licensor to use the Barca name also contains specific requirements and even pre-approval over who the present owner/licensee can sell/transfer to.

Barca is getting their trainers from somewhere, many are from Spain. I’d imagine the contract obligates Barca (?) to provide a certain number of trainers/ year. That’s certainly an asset.

Regardless, cash flow is the main asset. Yes, kids leave all the time, but their is a lot of “stickiness”, especially if there is consistency in the trainers. Most everyone I speak with who knows anything about Barca has nothing but praise for the trainers and their training methodology.

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Barca Management will surely address this parent appropriately. This parent’s actions are not representative of #BARCABEST.

What was the problem? Parents can be jerks, but usually there is some incident that causes them to charge the field.

Reply: There is never any excuse for parents to charge the field! Being a jerk is one thing, they exist in every age group. Charging a field is an entirely different thing and cannot be tolerated by the sane among us.

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“What’s your ROI”. What a silly statement. What’s my cost, genius? What’s my cost of funds? What are my fixed costs? Variable? What exactly am I buying.

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Quote: They have a contract with someone to, at a minimum, use the Barca name. I’m sure that agreement details other benefits and responsibilities as well. I’m also certain that agreement allows the licensor to use the Barca name also contains specific requirements and even pre-approval over who the present owner/licensee can sell/transfer to.

Barca is getting their trainers from somewhere, many are from Spain. I’d imagine the contract obligates Barca (?) to provide a certain number of trainers/ year. That’s certainly an asset.

Regardless, cash flow is the main asset. Yes, kids leave all the time, but their is a lot of “stickiness”, especially if there is consistency in the trainers. Most everyone I speak with who knows anything about Barca has nothing but praise for the trainers and their training methodology.

Reply: The trainers are the real deal and no question about their quality. But that is all the Barca Spain Club provides other than the name. If "Barca LI" is for sale it is because they aren't making money and every month LI has to send a check for use of the name and anything else they sell with the Barca brand name on it. The training is high quality but this was a bad business venture from the get go.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Quote: They have a contract with someone to, at a minimum, use the Barca name. I’m sure that agreement details other benefits and responsibilities as well. I’m also certain that agreement allows the licensor to use the Barca name also contains specific requirements and even pre-approval over who the present owner/licensee can sell/transfer to.

Barca is getting their trainers from somewhere, many are from Spain. I’d imagine the contract obligates Barca (?) to provide a certain number of trainers/ year. That’s certainly an asset.

Regardless, cash flow is the main asset. Yes, kids leave all the time, but their is a lot of “stickiness”, especially if there is consistency in the trainers. Most everyone I speak with who knows anything about Barca has nothing but praise for the trainers and their training methodology.

Reply: The trainers are the real deal and no question about their quality. But that is all the Barca Spain Club provides other than the name. If "Barca LI" is for sale it is because they aren't making money and every month LI has to send a check for use of the name and anything else they sell with the Barca brand name on it. The training is high quality but this was a bad business venture from the get go.


I think you should buy the club. You must be smarter than those who were approached and declined. What do they know, right?

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Originally Posted by Larry Miller

I think you should buy the club. You must be smarter than those who were approached and declined. What do they know, right?

Actually no, I have a bridge for sale that is a MUCH MUCH better deal. Prime real estate, lots of users and engagement and that stickiness that you're looking for. DM me for details.

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Quote: They have a contract with someone to, at a minimum, use the Barca name. I’m sure that agreement details other benefits and responsibilities as well. I’m also certain that agreement allows the licensor to use the Barca name also contains specific requirements and even pre-approval over who the present owner/licensee can sell/transfer to.

Barca is getting their trainers from somewhere, many are from Spain. I’d imagine the contract obligates Barca (?) to provide a certain number of trainers/ year. That’s certainly an asset.

Regardless, cash flow is the main asset. Yes, kids leave all the time, but their is a lot of “stickiness”, especially if there is consistency in the trainers. Most everyone I speak with who knows anything about Barca has nothing but praise for the trainers and their training methodology.

Reply: The trainers are the real deal and no question about their quality. But that is all the Barca Spain Club provides other than the name. If "Barca LI" is for sale it is because they aren't making money and every month LI has to send a check for use of the name and anything else they sell with the Barca brand name on it. The training is high quality but this was a bad business venture from the get go.


"If "Barca LI" is for sale it is because they aren't making money and every month LI has to send a check for use of the name and anything else they sell with the Barca brand name on it."

Not really; is one thing to recognize an opportunity and another to properly exploit it. For better or worse, a lot of businesses were created by one person and taken to the next level by someone else. KD and whomever else did something absolutely wonderfully crazy - they got a deal with the real Barca for a club here on LI; it may be for the next person (a person familiar with how to grow a soccer club) to exploit that properly, and may have been the plan all along. Who knows? Parents I know with children in club like the training, don't mind that field issue; that agreement with Barca is worth something, to the right operator.

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Let's clarify exactly the Barca coaching compensation model and the credentials they bring to the table. For the most part, the trainers from Spain are up and coming coaches who are trying to break into the ranks of the Barcelona academy. The majority of them will never make it. They are here on a visa and have a very short time to make an impression that could land them an interview. If Barca had any real academy coaches they would stick their noses up at the quality of LI players compared to what they work with at la Masia and would have no words to describe their American parents. For many young coaches, their time in NY is a vacation.

Now for Keith Delucia and Prospect Sports its actually cheaper to hire the Euro's then it is to have domestic coaches. Spanish coaches get paid a minimal stipend and are boarded at a coach's apartment with several other trainers. Domestic coaches require a much higher "per-session" fee then their foreign counterparts. Barca coaches barely survive and are here more for the experience than anything long-term.

This setup is not exclusive to Barca or relatively new. Any training group that highlights European coaches uses a similar model. Dutch Total Soccer (DTS), NOGA, etc, etc... These organizations have high turnover rates amongst their coaching corps. The trainers can not survive long-term on what they are getting paid and either return home or leave their original training organization to open up their own.

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Sounds like it will be following in line of the extinct Boca Junior/Juventus academy.

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Barca Management will surely address this parent appropriately. This parent’s actions are not representative of #BARCABEST.

What was the problem? Parents can be jerks, but usually there is some incident that causes them to charge the field.

Reply: There is never any excuse for parents to charge the field! Being a jerk is one thing, they exist in every age group. Charging a field is an entirely different thing and cannot be tolerated by the sane among us.

I totally agree that it is in no way OK and should never be tolerated. I'm just wondering what the inciting event was.

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"If "Barca LI" is for sale it is because they aren't making money and every month LI has to send a check for use of the name and anything else they sell with the Barca brand name on it."

The BOTN ticker seems to imply that they just put the Barca name on it without the real club's permission (perhaps it would actually have the full correct name if that was the case). So, if that were true and they had no actual contract/permission, then what does the club actually have?

Loyalty of good underpaid overseas trainers undergoing an ownership change? The loyalty of the kids?

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