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Over this past weekend BOTN was contacted regarding a situation citing an issue with the goalie from Great Neck Lady Strikers - some real unsportsmanlike conduct, but nothing too over the top.

"Seems this goalie has caused a world of crap for Great Neck early this season - she's been awarded a few cards and picked up a red card last week. She injured two players from Lynbrook - coming way out of the box and taking girls out. Lynbrook parents have several videos - I have been sent a couple and they are really blatant but heard there are even more. Lynbrook has taken it to LIJSL and Lynbrook parents that are attorneys have involved themselves. They are looking to have the goalie removed from the league."

BOTN is expecting to receive two videos today which we will add to this post. Your comments, as always are welcome.

This is one of two videos sent to me. I converted this short club to slow motion so you can see the contact in slo-mo player in question is studs up.

"Have heard others are worse - but this is pretty damning....especially how this goalie has behaved the last 2 years" ...from the source of this story.

U14 Lady Strikers v Lynbrook Panthers

That second one was pretty dirty.

Second one looks like she is trying to take girl out. First looks like she missed the ball. Doesn’t know how to dive for ball, and looking to tackle in my opinion. Maybe some proper goalie training would help her. But if she is maliciously trying to take girls out then maybe some discipline is necessary, suspension a game or two then if that doesn’t help maybe then she should be removed from league.

Someone (refs, LIJ, the player's parents etc) is asleep at the wheel if this player has not been reported yet. This is a horrible injury waiting to happen.

To be fair, has the player been spoken to or addressed?

If you can't stop them... injure them
My greatest fear for my little ones....

Wow. Seems like clear intent to hurt another player. She seems like a bigger older gal as well . Coach and player needs to be pulled in.

Hopefully the powers to be do the right thing

She needs to be suspended for remainder of the season

Sadly this is most likely not behavior or okay she learned on her own
It more than likely came from a parent or coach

perhaps this negative publicity will help right the ship.

when is lij going to address this problem

Likely never

I was at that GN/Lynbrook game. The keeper should have been Red carded in the first half when she took out the first few Lynbrook players. Instead she was allowed to continue and almost paralyzed another player with 3 minutes left in the game when she avoided the ball and went totally out of her way to make player contact. LIJSL has to do something about this player before somebody seriously is injured.

I was also at this game and what’s worse is the coaches for Great Neck were cheering the keeper on after the red card was issued. They were actually congratulating her with high fives for almost paralyzing the Lynbrook striker. Something has to be done with this kid.

that's all you need to know . if the coaches were cheering the keeper on they should be held accountable also. the league going forward should notify the refs of the situation and before each game the goalie and the coaches should be warned that any infraction will result in both the goalie and the coaches carded

LIJSL cannot ignore this now. If something major occurs moving forward, they will have a lawsuit on their hands for sure. This kid has been an issue for almost 2 years.

Yep and refs let it go over and over and then get surprised when games get out of control.

If the Coaches were cheering their goalkeeper’s tactics they can easily be red carded for inappropriate behavior.

Now as far as “warning” ANY player or Coach BEFORE the game that is NOT a good idea. The referees are there to call the game not to warn players BEFORE the game starts based on whatever has happened before that game. That is NOT appropriate. It sets the wrong tone at the start of the game.

It is NEVER a good idea to threaten anyone with a card before the game has even started. It shows a lack of objectivity and if something happens and the player does not get carded then the threat is an empty one and will embolden the player more especially when the referee can miss something or look away. Referees are there to call the game and blow the whistle when they see a foul.

Now if this goalkeeper was indeed red carded in a game last week then she will miss the next game, there is usually a hearing bearing out all the facts of the incident and a fine is usually given. When this happens it usually curbs or nips the problem in the bud.

Three points on this.

1) Kids don't play this way. This is coming from an adult that this is what she should do.

2) This is the coach's and parent's responsibility to deal with this kid, not a ref, not LIJSL or whatever league. Ref's see the kid for maybe a game a year. Yes they need to enforce the rules and discipline for the league but the coach sees the kid 2-3x a week or more. The parents every day. It's their job to make this change.

3) I despise the fact that people are out there taking videos and sharing them. This situation is for the game only. Sending videos of this nature is just BS and monday morning QBing. Enough. Put your phones away and enjoy the game.

Well of course just about everything we see young players do on the field they have learned from adults, the good and the bad.

As far as taping a game I wish people would just audiotape the game from the spectators side and try to listen to the cacophony of negative noise that the players have to listen to for the entire game.

You are the problem with youth soccer today.

1) possibly, but kids take it to the extreme

2) the parents and coaches obviously have no idea how to coach, much less coach a keeper.

3) the kid - or any player for that matter - won't learn or develop unless they see their video.

Cone back here in a few years when your in the college recruiting stage and you'll see how dopey you sound.

i am number 14
my team would never hurt anyone intentionally

Question how good of a goalie is she? You can teach away the rough play but you can’t teach that kind of heart!

I disagree because the video is perfect evidence of what is happening on a repeated basis. Without the video its just "there was a couple of bad tackles" but with it you can see just how dangerous it was. Both of those are easy red cards and the player should be suspended and coach risk being fined.

How are people supposed to just "enjoy the game" when they see their kids being intentionally put in serious harm's way by stupid coaches and a kid who knows exactly what she is doing.

I find this whole thing both sad and amusing at the same time.

It is ridiculous that video was shot and circulated of U14 girls playing a soccer game, presumably by someone who wants to make sure that the 13 year-old GK is publicly disgraced for being overly aggressive with their little princess(es).

It is a ridiculous overreaction to claim that the girl who was fouled was "almost paralyzed" because she wound up on the ground. By that standard, anyone who has ever been tackled in an American football game, fallen off of a bicycle, or slipped on an icy sidewalk has been "almost paralyzed". Yep, that seems like a logical conclusion.

Apparently, the offending GK was given a straight red for her effort, as she should have been. Most likely, league rules will state that she is suspended for the next match. If the behavior is repeated, any subsequent suspensions should be longer. It is up to the referee(s) and the league to enforce the appropriate sanctions. This is where it should end. Not with parents, not with videos, not with lawyers, not with public shaming.

Soccer is a physical game - sometimes excessively so, but that is why there are laws/rules that govern the way that excessive behavior is handled. There is contact. Players often are taken to the ground by opposition. If this is not acceptable to you or your child, there are a multitude of other competitive sports that entail little or no contact whatsoever. No one is forcing anyone else to participate in soccer, and no coach, referee, or league is "intentionally putting kids in harm's way". Seriously, do you hear yourself? Like a referee or coach wakes up in the morning on a mission to make sure as many kids maim each other as possible.

Finally, while I don't necessarily condone this, if all else fails, there are methods that can be employed by a player (or players) during a match to "motivate" a dirty opponent to change his/her approach. Let's just say that a player who takes a cheap shot on me or my teammate should not be looking forward to seeing us again later in the season.