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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #727254 09/25/19 01:38 PM
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No idea what you are talking about. What am I the source of? Are you speaking in code? I do not know who Larry reported over a year ago - can someone clue me in? All I know is that Barca and Valencia are now playing in the NYCFC CDL as of this year. That's all. I know nothing about this conspiracy you speak of.

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Larry Miller] #727263 09/25/19 03:45 PM
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The Valencia 09 team has always been good. I have watched them and they play a very nice brand of soccer for their age.

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Larry Miller] #727317 09/27/19 08:20 AM
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2019 crop of the NYCFC CSL League.

Albertson
Barca NY
DUSC
East Meadow
FCW Armour
Manhattan
Manhattan Kickers FC
Met Oval
Met Oval East
New York SC
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Valencia CF
White Plains
World Class FC

League should have Aurburndale, on the fence with Albertson and East Meadow.

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #727334 09/27/19 11:33 AM
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2019 crop of the NYCFC CSL League.

Albertson
Barca NY
DUSC
East Meadow
FCW Armour
Manhattan
Manhattan Kickers FC
Met Oval
Met Oval East
New York SC
SUSA
Valencia CF
White Plains
World Class FC

League should have Aurburndale, on the fence with Albertson and East Meadow.



Top teams with talented kids

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Larry Miller] #727346 09/28/19 06:34 AM
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To the poster above yes NYCFC regularly sends scouts to the CDL games.

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Larry Miller] #727375 09/28/19 10:42 PM
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When you don't have either finalist from the NY Cup how is it the top league?

Why no score keeping or records?

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Sundevil94] #727378 09/29/19 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundevil94
When you don't have either finalist from the NY Cup how is it the top league?

Why no score keeping or records?


The point isn’t winning or losing. It’s development, if you haven’t noticed the US has been doing a very poor job at developing World Class players. We have a very high participation rate and not a very good National Team.

Every other part of the world they don’t keep score or standings until 12/13 years old. The focus is on development and having fun.

For some reason here in the US we would rather scream and yell at 7-10 year old kids and pressure them to win so much that they stop enjoying playing the game. Maybe if everyone took a step back and thought more about their kids happiness and development it would be more enjoyable for everyone(especially kids).

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #727384 09/29/19 09:07 AM
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To the poster above yes NYCFC regularly sends scouts to the CDL games.


do they converse with the team coaches to provide technical guidance and observations?
or is it purely for recruitment to the DA?

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Larry Miller] #727385 09/29/19 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundevil94
When you don't have either finalist from the NY Cup how is it the top league?

Why no score keeping or records?


The point isn’t winning or losing. It’s development, if you haven’t noticed the US has been doing a very poor job at developing World Class players. We have a very high participation rate and not a very good National Team.

Every other part of the world they don’t keep score or standings until 12/13 years old. The focus is on development and having fun.

For some reason here in the US we would rather scream and yell at 7-10 year old kids and pressure them to win so much that they stop enjoying playing the game. Maybe if everyone took a step back and thought more about their kids happiness and development it would be more enjoyable for everyone(especially kids).



Not true they keep score in other countries as well. Kids keep score from the youngest ages. Sometimes fun is seeing your team at the top of a table. This seems more like a participation medal for everyone, which is great because you keep getting those throughout your life.

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Larry Miller] #727386 09/29/19 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
No idea what you are talking about. What am I the source of? Are you speaking in code? I do not know who Larry reported over a year ago - can someone clue me in? All I know is that Barca and Valencia are now playing in the NYCFC CDL as of this year. That's all. I know nothing about this conspiracy you speak of.


If you go back and look at the older posts you will read that Gary grossman the guy who runs the nycsl leagues in order to get Barca into his league and stop EDP from getting Barca, which they never wanted, was to make a deal with the Barca folks including his friend Bart Nason they couldn't refuse.

Grossman gave the player database to barca allowing them to target specific age groups from his member clubs and their player registration hurting all of his member clubs. His disloyalty to his members was wrong on many levels and hurt some of his biggest member clubs including Atletico, EM, SUSA. and every other member club.

It is all about and only about money at nycsl.

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #727390 09/29/19 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundevil94
When you don't have either finalist from the NY Cup how is it the top league?

Why no score keeping or records?


The point isn’t winning or losing. It’s development, if you haven’t noticed the US has been doing a very poor job at developing World Class players. We have a very high participation rate and not a very good National Team.

Every other part of the world they don’t keep score or standings until 12/13 years old. The focus is on development and having fun.

For some reason here in the US we would rather scream and yell at 7-10 year old kids and pressure them to win so much that they stop enjoying playing the game. Maybe if everyone took a step back and thought more about their kids happiness and development it would be more enjoyable for everyone(especially kids).



Not true they keep score in other countries as well. Kids keep score from the youngest ages. Sometimes fun is seeing your team at the top of a table. This seems more like a participation medal for everyone, which is great because you keep getting those throughout your life.


I think OP is correct they don’t keep score at the younger ages.

You are so clueless, It’s not about participation trophies. It’s about having a curriculum to develop players. Part of every curriculum you will find in the world a main focus is young kids having fun without pressure of winning. It’s so they develop creativity and composure. What winning at all costs creates is college soccer.

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #727414 09/30/19 10:15 AM
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No idea what you are talking about. What am I the source of? Are you speaking in code? I do not know who Larry reported over a year ago - can someone clue me in? All I know is that Barca and Valencia are now playing in the NYCFC CDL as of this year. That's all. I know nothing about this conspiracy you speak of.


If you go back and look at the older posts you will read that Gary grossman the guy who runs the nycsl leagues in order to get Barca into his league and stop EDP from getting Barca, which they never wanted, was to make a deal with the Barca folks including his friend Bart Nason they couldn't refuse.

Grossman gave the player database to barca allowing them to target specific age groups from his member clubs and their player registration hurting all of his member clubs. His disloyalty to his members was wrong on many levels and hurt some of his biggest member clubs including Atletico, EM, SUSA. and every other member club.

It is all about and only about money at nycsl.


Wow, so Grossman gave Barca the player database for NYCFC CDL? Atletico is not in the league and EM wasn't until this fall - how did he manage to get those databases?

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #727415 09/30/19 11:04 AM
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No idea what you are talking about. What am I the source of? Are you speaking in code? I do not know who Larry reported over a year ago - can someone clue me in? All I know is that Barca and Valencia are now playing in the NYCFC CDL as of this year. That's all. I know nothing about this conspiracy you speak of.


If you go back and look at the older posts you will read that Gary grossman the guy who runs the nycsl leagues in order to get Barca into his league and stop EDP from getting Barca, which they never wanted, was to make a deal with the Barca folks including his friend Bart Nason they couldn't refuse.

Grossman gave the player database to barca allowing them to target specific age groups from his member clubs and their player registration hurting all of his member clubs. His disloyalty to his members was wrong on many levels and hurt some of his biggest member clubs including Atletico, EM, SUSA. and every other member club.

It is all about and only about money at nycsl.


Wow, so Grossman gave Barca the player database for NYCFC CDL? Atletico is not in the league and EM wasn't until this fall - how did he manage to get those databases?


The poster did not say that the database was given to NYCFC. The database was given to Barca when the club first started out. How do you think all those players suddenly showed up enmasse for tryouts? It appears that if a player was registered with US Club through NYCSL that, the NYCSL registered player database was given to Barca. The "tell" was how Barca targeted specific age groups and that would only be possible as only the registration player database would have birthdates and full contact info. I confronted Grossman on this issue and Grossman through Mike Gould under the bus suggesting it was Gould who gave Barca the player database.

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Larry Miller] #727416 09/30/19 11:16 AM
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Oh, I misread NYCFC instead of NYCSL. Are Grossman and Gould still in charge at NYCSL? Wondering if this sort of thing is still going on and if so, can anyone put a stop to it?

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Re: B2009:U11 Fall 2019/Spring 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #727419 09/30/19 11:32 AM
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Oh, I misread NYCFC instead of NYCSL. Are Grossman and Gould still in charge at NYCSL? Wondering if this sort of thing is still going on and if so, can anyone put a stop to it?


Yes and no.

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