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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725500 08/14/19 02:53 PM
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Your a soccer club. What is the point of more $$$$$ when you give your teams away. The point is to build up your program to encourage kids to come put on your uniform. Or at least that’s what I thought. Problem is when you look up your Director of Soccer training on internet and he appears in an East Meadow jacket. Farmingdale building new fields and hands teams (even if in name alone) to another club. Terrible.


Smithtown had kids running around in East Meadow uniforms for years until they got canned by them, so why is this a problem?

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725508 08/14/19 04:54 PM
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Farmingdale must be spending millions on all the new fields we have going up and you think the soccer club would trade a few thousand dollars for their entire girls travel program? Teams will now be using our beautiful new fields wearing East Meadow uniforms!!! Awesome job Farmingdale Soccer!!!! This JG already has a bridge he’s ready to sell you!!!



Farmingdale didn't spend millions, they play at a TOB park. Also it's just the 2007 and older girls playing as EM. All younger teams are still under Farmingdale(for now that is)

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725510 08/14/19 06:27 PM
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A friend told me a few players moved to the ecnl team from her Farmingdale team. I believe o2 and 03

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725513 08/14/19 08:38 PM
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Farmingdale must be spending millions on all the new fields we have going up and you think the soccer club would trade a few thousand dollars for their entire girls travel program? Teams will now be using our beautiful new fields wearing East Meadow uniforms!!! Awesome job Farmingdale Soccer!!!! This JG already has a bridge he’s ready to sell you!!!



Farmingdale didn't spend millions, they play at a TOB park. Also it's just the 2007 and older girls playing as EM. All younger teams are still under Farmingdale(for now that is)


Oh yes the EwM and Farm “ECRL” teams what a joke and dumb parents that buy into this crap, keep dreaming folks and wasting your money!!

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Larry Miller] #725534 08/15/19 12:32 PM
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I see a lot of people on here bashing EM and Farmingdale(Which I agree with,). If you look at other chats people are bashing almost all teams. There must be some goods ones out there. Can anyone name a good club for girls?

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725538 08/15/19 02:19 PM
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As soon as the adults starting making their living (full time) from youth soccer things went south real quick. The clubs will always fall short of our expectations as customers and the expectations on the national level. Will some kids rise through the muck? Of course, but not nearly the percentage of kids or their true potential reached if the kids best interest was the FIRST priority.

ALL these clubs local and Academy are chasing the short term and for that business is a booming. If you want your kid to stay the course and continue to love a sport you need to give them the down time, support them to try other things and most of all be selective and keep the programs with all their money grabs in perspective. This is not a sprint to the finish; its a marathon with many turns. Allow your kids the freedom to be kids. Its okay if they "miss out" here and there to be kids. Clubs don't want them to miss out because they need the monthly revenue stream. Show me any professional sport where the athletes play year round!

Some parents are part of the problem. Education first and being a good kid should be our focus.

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725540 08/15/19 02:25 PM
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A friend told me a few players moved to the ecnl team from her Farmingdale team. I believe o2 and 03

That's because the smurf cant hold onto any talent.

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Larry Miller] #725574 08/16/19 02:37 PM
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I was told there was a meeting where Farmingdale parents with girls in ECRL were told they were prohibited to spend any money on outside training. And if they did their daughter would be removed from the league. Is this accurate and does it apply to the boys teams as well?

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725576 08/16/19 03:36 PM
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I was told there was a meeting where Farmingdale parents with girls in ECRL were told they were prohibited to spend any money on outside training. And if they did their daughter would be removed from the league. Is this accurate and does it apply to the boys teams as well?


Definitely not a league rule. Maybe a club rule?

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725579 08/16/19 05:29 PM
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Why would you need outside training. You are ECRL the best! So you shouldn’t need another trainers East Meadow has the best trainers? A bit concerning if people are already looking for training before they even begin. Where is all the money going?

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725582 08/16/19 06:51 PM
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I was told there was a meeting where Farmingdale parents with girls in ECRL were told they were prohibited to spend any money on outside training. And if they did their daughter would be removed from the league. Is this accurate and does it apply to the boys teams as well?


FSC and JG are losing revenue with this partnership, EMSC still getting money from the ECRL registration, uniform kick-back etc...

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Larry Miller] #725601 08/17/19 09:38 AM
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what is a four letter word for snatch?

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725608 08/17/19 02:04 PM
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what is a four letter word for snatch?


Grab

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725647 08/18/19 04:14 PM
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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725652 08/18/19 06:33 PM
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Snag!

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725653 08/18/19 06:35 PM
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[quote=Anonymous]EMSC[/

Or SUSA. Or FURY or Surf, SESA ,.....

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725712 08/19/19 06:46 PM
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Or SUSA. Or FURY or Surf, SESA ,.....
LI SOCCER IS SO DISHEARTENING!

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725723 08/19/19 09:53 PM
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Or SUSA. Or FURY or Surf, SESA ,.....
LI SOCCER IS SO DISHEARTENING!


The parents at the end are at fault for continuing to support these programs! They have us investing in their system for years with the expectations that our kids are developing the right way! Please! The minute someone new comes aboard loyalty goes our the window! Where is the development there?

Stop waiting your time and money with all those organizations. Keep your children in town clubs and to the extra training that training organizations like Rough Riders or SUSA Camps and even EM camps provide. Use them don’t let them use you!

Concentrate on Academics!!!! Spend the extra $2000 a year these clubs are making you pay and put towards their education!

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725727 08/20/19 05:57 AM
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Or SUSA. Or FURY or Surf, SESA ,.....
LI SOCCER IS SO DISHEARTENING!


The parents at the end are at fault for continuing to support these programs! They have us investing in their system for years with the expectations that our kids are developing the right way! Please! The minute someone new comes aboard loyalty goes our the window! Where is the development there?

Stop waiting your time and money with all those organizations. Keep your children in town clubs and to the extra training that training organizations like Rough Riders or SUSA Camps and even EM camps provide. Use them don’t let them use you!

Concentrate on Academics!!!! Spend the extra $2000 a year these clubs are making you pay and put towards their education!


Great points! You’ll wind up in the same (or better) situation because of the academic influence and very likely will avoid the disappointment and hostility many parents leave in their wake when they eventually leave a club because they experience said loyalty going out the window. We all know parents who look to make it their mission to bad mouth or discredit a club or club members through vitriol. (See this message board or club sidelines) Unnecessary, very immature, and unfortunately a lasting impression you leave on your own kid who NO DOUBT will repeat the same behavior in the future. And likely pass that mentality on to future generations. So yes, the parents are completely at fault

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725732 08/20/19 07:59 AM
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Or SUSA. Or FURY or Surf, SESA ,.....
LI SOCCER IS SO DISHEARTENING!


The parents at the end are at fault for continuing to support these programs! They have us investing in their system for years with the expectations that our kids are developing the right way! Please! The minute someone new comes aboard loyalty goes our the window! Where is the development there?

Stop waiting your time and money with all those organizations. Keep your children in town clubs and to the extra training that training organizations like Rough Riders or SUSA Camps and even EM camps provide. Use them don’t let them use you!

Concentrate on Academics!!!! Spend the extra $2000 a year these clubs are making you pay and put towards their education!


Great points! You’ll wind up in the same (or better) situation because of the academic influence and very likely will avoid the disappointment and hostility many parents leave in their wake when they eventually leave a club because they experience said loyalty going out the window. We all know parents who look to make it their mission to bad mouth or discredit a club or club members through vitriol. (See this message board or club sidelines) Unnecessary, very immature, and unfortunately a lasting impression you leave on your own kid who NO DOUBT will repeat the same behavior in the future. And likely pass that mentality on to future generations. So yes, the parents are completely at fault



I wouldn't say parents are "completely" at fault. You have people in our ear saying this and that and some of these people seem well intentioned. Time goes on and parents become more experienced and seasoned. This whole process with the parents and their developing to decipher the good from the bad is all while they are trying to do what is best for their kid. This is not an easy task when you have used car salesman in your ear.

Some coaches and organizations prey on the naĂŻve parents who have not been around or just don't get it. I do agree there is limited loyalty and if a parent wants to speak up against a bad experience there is a proper way of doing so. I don't think the sideline is the place. However I understand when someone who is working 70 plus hours a week makes a mistake and loses their cool as a result of another lie from a coach/said organization. Playing with someone's emotions is a dangerous mistake when so much time and money are being put into something that involves their children.

Try and be honest and communicative clubs/coaches. I know its a lot to ask.

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725749 08/20/19 12:01 PM
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Or SUSA. Or FURY or Surf, SESA ,.....
LI SOCCER IS SO DISHEARTENING!


The parents at the end are at fault for continuing to support these programs! They have us investing in their system for years with the expectations that our kids are developing the right way! Please! The minute someone new comes aboard loyalty goes our the window! Where is the development there?

Stop waiting your time and money with all those organizations. Keep your children in town clubs and to the extra training that training organizations like Rough Riders or SUSA Camps and even EM camps provide. Use them don’t let them use you!

Concentrate on Academics!!!! Spend the extra $2000 a year these clubs are making you pay and put towards their education!


Great points! You’ll wind up in the same (or better) situation because of the academic influence and very likely will avoid the disappointment and hostility many parents leave in their wake when they eventually leave a club because they experience said loyalty going out the window. We all know parents who look to make it their mission to bad mouth or discredit a club or club members through vitriol. (See this message board or club sidelines) Unnecessary, very immature, and unfortunately a lasting impression you leave on your own kid who NO DOUBT will repeat the same behavior in the future. And likely pass that mentality on to future generations. So yes, the parents are completely at fault



I wouldn't say parents are "completely" at fault. You have people in our ear saying this and that and some of these people seem well intentioned. Time goes on and parents become more experienced and seasoned. This whole process with the parents and their developing to decipher the good from the bad is all while they are trying to do what is best for their kid. This is not an easy task when you have used car salesman in your ear.

Some coaches and organizations prey on the naĂŻve parents who have not been around or just don't get it. I do agree there is limited loyalty and if a parent wants to speak up against a bad experience there is a proper way of doing so. I don't think the sideline is the place. However I understand when someone who is working 70 plus hours a week makes a mistake and loses their cool as a result of another lie from a coach/said organization. Playing with someone's emotions is a dangerous mistake when so much time and money are being put into something that involves their children.

Try and be honest and communicative clubs/coaches. I know its a lot to ask.


To reiterate, placing so much time and money (not to mention importance) into this is misguided. I don’t see it as clubs preying on people. They’re businessmen looking to increase revenue and max out profit. Just like any other business. Other than keeping you’re kid safe and their insurance policy current, they don’t owe you anything. Stop expecting different. And start acting like an adult. Speaking of a bad experience is one thing, but I don’t believe that’s what is being referenced. Regardless if you work 70 hours a week or pick your ass for 80.

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Anonymous] #725756 08/20/19 12:43 PM
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Wrong. You can still be in business and keep your integrity. When you start telling flat out lies to do this or that you are now an ***hole with a crappy business model.

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To reiterate, placing so much time and money (not to mention importance) into this is misguided. I don’t see it as clubs preying on people. They’re businessmen looking to increase revenue and max out profit. Just like any other business. Other than keeping you’re kid safe and their insurance policy current, they don’t owe you anything. Stop expecting different. And start acting like an adult. Speaking of a bad experience is one thing, but I don’t believe that’s what is being referenced. Regardless if you work 70 hours a week or pick your ass for 80.


Insurance and and keeping my kid safe? Then why spend all that money in a bussiness that claims to be an academy and develop players to the highest level. If I want a babysitter with a insurance policy might as well stay in a town club which provides a great atmosphere for kids and they’re able to stay with their peers. I’m looking for an honest academy which can develop le my child into a great soccer player and point my child into the right direction without the personal interest of the club.

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To reiterate, placing so much time and money (not to mention importance) into this is misguided. I don’t see it as clubs preying on people. They’re businessmen looking to increase revenue and max out profit. Just like any other business. Other than keeping you’re kid safe and their insurance policy current, they don’t owe you anything. Stop expecting different. And start acting like an adult. Speaking of a bad experience is one thing, but I don’t believe that’s what is being referenced. Regardless if you work 70 hours a week or pick your ass for 80.


Insurance and and keeping my kid safe? Then why spend all that money in a bussiness that claims to be an academy and develop players to the highest level. If I want a babysitter with a insurance policy might as well stay in a town club which provides a great atmosphere for kids and they’re able to stay with their peers. I’m looking for an honest academy which can develop le my child into a great soccer player and point my child into the right direction without the personal interest of the club.


God you people are delusional. You don’t need an Academy to point your kid in the right direction. That’s your job. Talent, self discipline and motivation will open doors, and there are very few trainers who could move the needle to the point where you see enough improvement to stand out among the thousands of others. Plus the money you invest in Academy training will completely out pace any relief you may be fortunate enough to get from a school. You should have stopped your post after writing “I might as well stay in a town club which provides a great atmosphere........”. 90+ % of the people can wind up in the same place as anyone else paying 7k - 10k a year minimum for 6 - 8 years. That doesn’t include all the time wasted traveling and bad feelings most people experience. Again, just read this message board or check your local sidelines for examples. Clubs cannot keep “every promise” to every player. It’s impossible

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Re: East Meadow SC & Farmingdale SC Announce 2019/2020 Strategic Partnership [Re: Larry Miller] #725949 08/25/19 08:59 AM
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I hope the East Meadow/East Meadow Farmingdale teams find better competition than they have at their own tournament this weekend!!!! Lol

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