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Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League [Re: Anonymous] #723929 06/24/19 04:41 AM
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New Jersey Parents should know that OMM is paying a fee to Orangeburg for out of locality, town, state players. Naturally WC wants to keep as much of the fee as possible therefore rosters maybe based on residency rather then merit.
Similar to NJ kids attending a SUNY I guess we could say ?


D’s team has added new NJ players each year she’s been there. Doesn’t seem like it’s been a factor.

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Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League [Re: Larry Miller] #723934 06/24/19 10:03 AM
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reading that document, seems like WC is in violation of a host of the terms. Also, i dont see a rental rate or lease rate. I believe WC hosts many for-profit events on that facility grounds and re-rents those fields to third parties at a steep markup. I wonder if they have to turn those fees over to the town. Seems like the idea was to benefit local sports and the local community, not prop up a multimillion dollar business who then further rents out the facilities for additional profit given the sweetheart deal with get from the town. One day wise folks will take over in the town and realize they are giving it away to WC way to cheaply and that WC is not honoring the terms of the deal. this is where a watchdog group should look at conflicts of interest, kickbacks and sweetheart dealings.

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Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League [Re: Larry Miller] #723937 06/24/19 10:37 AM
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WCFC is just OMM travel soccer. They used to be separate entities but OMM couldnt fireld teams and space was an issue. In order to keep using what are basically municipal fields, WC/OMM collectively have to have a certain % of the total player pool living in Orangeburg & Rockland county overall. That is across the travel and rec programs. Non resident players in WC have brought that % down too low and now the residents complain that what is basically a private club is using their public fields at no charge.

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Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League [Re: Anonymous] #723940 06/24/19 11:54 AM
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reading that document, seems like WC is in violation of a host of the terms. Also, i dont see a rental rate or lease rate. I believe WC hosts many for-profit events on that facility grounds and re-rents those fields to third parties at a steep markup. I wonder if they have to turn those fees over to the town. Seems like the idea was to benefit local sports and the local community, not prop up a multimillion dollar business who then further rents out the facilities for additional profit given the sweetheart deal with get from the town. One day wise folks will take over in the town and realize they are giving it away to WC way to cheaply and that WC is not honoring the terms of the deal. this is where a watchdog group should look at conflicts of interest, kickbacks and sweetheart dealings.


Fwiw, those articles are from 2015-2016.

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Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League [Re: Anonymous] #723941 06/24/19 11:56 AM
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reading that document, seems like WC is in violation of a host of the terms. Also, i dont see a rental rate or lease rate. I believe WC hosts many for-profit events on that facility grounds and re-rents those fields to third parties at a steep markup. I wonder if they have to turn those fees over to the town. Seems like the idea was to benefit local sports and the local community, not prop up a multimillion dollar business who then further rents out the facilities for additional profit given the sweetheart deal with get from the town. One day wise folks will take over in the town and realize they are giving it away to WC way to cheaply and that WC is not honoring the terms of the deal. this is where a watchdog group should look at conflicts of interest, kickbacks and sweetheart dealings.


What for-profit events do they host there?

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Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League [Re: Larry Miller] #723958 06/24/19 08:42 PM
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Has wc ever tried to build its own local facility? What would it cost to build a similar facility?

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Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League [Re: Anonymous] #723967 06/25/19 08:23 AM
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Has wc ever tried to build its own local facility? What would it cost to build a similar facility?


Finding the land is probably the biggest barrier.

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Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League [Re: Anonymous] #723988 06/26/19 06:45 AM
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Has wc ever tried to build its own local facility? What would it cost to build a similar facility?


Finding the land is probably the biggest barrier.


There's a reason few clubs have their own facilities or even fields - it's a huge investment. Without deep pockets or generous donations it's tough to come up with the funds to buy costly land and then to build. Take out a huge loan? It's a huge risk to owners and an asset of limited value to a bank; fields are just the value of land really. A larger club will need multiple fields, not just one or two. Most will need to rent out the space during the down times to bring in extra money, which then requires more management time. If you get lucky you can buy something already built that's for sale or long term lease when it comes available.

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Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League [Re: Anonymous] #724000 06/26/19 01:45 PM
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That is why east meadow and farmingdale are together. East meadow wanted fields they are local and now they have great field access the farmingdale girls will not join ecnl as they won't take them now since they didn't take them before

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Re: Girls ECNL Announce Regional Northeast League [Re: Anonymous] #724537 07/16/19 09:26 PM
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That is why east meadow and farmingdale are together. East meadow wanted fields they are local and now they have great field access the farmingdale girls will not join ecnl as they won't take them now since they didn't take them before

That’s why the farmingdale team is the ECRL team ( aka ECNL 2/ ECNL B). Great marketing ploy and money grabber, stupid parents will pay all kinds of $ for that label, such a joke!

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