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Re: ECNL Fall 2018/Spring 2019
Anonymous #723456 06/13/19 10:48 AM
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I have to say SUSA in its first year did very well on the gilrs U17 team. They are going to the last showcase above Matchfit and East Meadow who are in the bottom bracket.


Since a SUSA parent is applauding the accomplishments of the U17 team let’s be honest (reality check) to look at the equally dysfunctional ECNL. Of the 15 teams in this group, 8 of these teams finished with a below a below 500 losing record with a 9th team finishing at 500. Just like DA the competition and competitiveness has greatly diminished over the years with teams that would not have been part of this league just 3 years ago. Just as with DA these teams have rosters with depth issues that have filled there rosters with players that never would have been part of these teams just 3 years ago. LI does not have enough top players to fill the rosters of more than 1 ECNL & 1 DA team. Should we judge success by applauding mediocrity and therefore success is now based on an inferior product which are leagues that have greatly diminished? Is that the new standard for US Soccer and ECNL?

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I have to say SUSA in its first year did very well on the gilrs U17 team. They are going to the last showcase above Matchfit and East Meadow who are in the bottom bracket.


Since a SUSA parent is applauding the accomplishments of the U17 team let’s be honest (reality check) to look at the equally dysfunctional ECNL. Of the 15 teams in this group, 8 of these teams finished with a below a below 500 losing record with a 9th team finishing at 500. Just like DA the competition and competitiveness has greatly diminished over the years with teams that would not have been part of this league just 3 years ago. Just as with DA these teams have rosters with depth issues that have filled there rosters with players that never would have been part of these teams just 3 years ago. LI does not have enough top players to fill the rosters of more than 1 ECNL & 1 DA team. Should we judge success by applauding mediocrity and therefore success is now based on an inferior product which are leagues that have greatly diminished? Is that the new standard for US Soccer and ECNL?


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I have to say SUSA in its first year did very well on the gilrs U17 team. They are going to the last showcase above Matchfit and East Meadow who are in the bottom bracket.


Since a SUSA parent is applauding the accomplishments of the U17 team let’s be honest (reality check) to look at the equally dysfunctional ECNL. Of the 15 teams in this group, 8 of these teams finished with a below a below 500 losing record with a 9th team finishing at 500. Just like DA the competition and competitiveness has greatly diminished over the years with teams that would not have been part of this league just 3 years ago. Just as with DA these teams have rosters with depth issues that have filled there rosters with players that never would have been part of these teams just 3 years ago. LI does not have enough top players to fill the rosters of more than 1 ECNL & 1 DA team. Should we judge success by applauding mediocrity and therefore success is now based on an inferior product which are leagues that have greatly diminished? Is that the new standard for US Soccer and ECNL?


So 6 teams above .500, 1 team at .500, 8 teams below .500. Hmmm....

If the 8th place team (happens to be EM) wins 1 game that they lost, it would have been a perfectly level table. Ya that's really dysfunctional???? Actually about as normal as they come.

Nice try though.

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Anonymous #723466 06/13/19 12:54 PM
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I have to say SUSA in its first year did very well on the gilrs U17 team. They are going to the last showcase above Matchfit and East Meadow who are in the bottom bracket.


Since a SUSA parent is applauding the accomplishments of the U17 team let’s be honest (reality check) to look at the equally dysfunctional ECNL. Of the 15 teams in this group, 8 of these teams finished with a below a below 500 losing record with a 9th team finishing at 500. Just like DA the competition and competitiveness has greatly diminished over the years with teams that would not have been part of this league just 3 years ago. Just as with DA these teams have rosters with depth issues that have filled there rosters with players that never would have been part of these teams just 3 years ago. LI does not have enough top players to fill the rosters of more than 1 ECNL & 1 DA team. Should we judge success by applauding mediocrity and therefore success is now based on an inferior product which are leagues that have greatly diminished? Is that the new standard for US Soccer and ECNL?


You can also see that of the 15 teams, only 4 teams finished with a GD of less than -12, which means that only 4 teams were losing games by an average of more than 1 goal. Not bad at all.

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Anonymous #723470 06/13/19 01:21 PM
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So now your rationalizing this ECNL age group. Go back and look up this age group 3 years ago and see the difference. Just to give you another example of the lack of competition and competitiveness look at PDA & FC Stars with there split teams. Does that look like 2 even teams? Looks like FC Fury & FC Albertson to me.
Of the 14 games you have 8 teams that did not win more than 5 matches (including EMSC) and 1 team that did not win a single match. And you had a part saying that EM is one of the best clubs on LI. It just proves the DYSFUNCTION of the soccer landscape on LI. If SUSA parents want to congratulate mediocrity then enjoy it that is your right but just look at what you paid for this season.
I agree with what Larry has said that LISC have a plan and are gradually building a program where parents will want to bring there daughters and it all begins with the right soccer people running the program and bringing in coaches/trainers that these young ladies want to learn from and improve.

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Anonymous #723520 06/14/19 11:16 AM
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I have to say SUSA in its first year did very well on the gilrs U17 team. They are going to the last showcase above Matchfit and East Meadow who are in the bottom bracket.


Since a SUSA parent is applauding the accomplishments of the U17 team let’s be honest (reality check) to look at the equally dysfunctional ECNL. Of the 15 teams in this group, 8 of these teams finished with a below a below 500 losing record with a 9th team finishing at 500. Just like DA the competition and competitiveness has greatly diminished over the years with teams that would not have been part of this league just 3 years ago. Just as with DA these teams have rosters with depth issues that have filled there rosters with players that never would have been part of these teams just 3 years ago. LI does not have enough top players to fill the rosters of more than 1 ECNL & 1 DA team. Should we judge success by applauding mediocrity and therefore success is now based on an inferior product which are leagues that have greatly diminished? Is that the new standard for US Soccer and ECNL?


You can also see that of the 15 teams, only 4 teams finished with a GD of less than -12, which means that only 4 teams were losing games by an average of more than 1 goal. Not bad at all.


Whats ironic is that Match Fit - who were huge proponents of SUSA getting into ECNL - are now getting displaced from participation in champions league BY SUSA.

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I guess all the training at other clubs paid off. EM sends new arrivals to the CSP while homegrown players get to pay and play as backups to the stars. #theEMway

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It actually should be about talent....but clearly wasn’t, seems more like a job hand to me [/quote]

Hand job? Hahaha I get it. Was it performed by the husband or the wife?

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Anonymous #723532 06/14/19 01:19 PM
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SUSA parents think they are the cause of a team not making the Championship league. How about Matchfit’s record is 3 wins 10 losses 1 draw. SUSA has nothing to do with there exclusion rather it’s just another example of ECNL Mediocrity and how you have parents thinking there daughters are that much better than Matchfit. ECNL like DA lack competition and competitive teams. Too many teams lack talent and depth.

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SUSA parents think they are the cause of a team not making the Championship league. How about Matchfit’s record is 3 wins 10 losses 1 draw. SUSA has nothing to do with there exclusion rather it’s just another example of ECNL Mediocrity and how you have parents thinking there daughters are that much better than Matchfit. ECNL like DA lack competition and competitive teams. Too many teams lack talent and depth.



You should use different wording in your comment, Susa Parents think they are the cause of matchfit not making champions league? Wrong! Susa parents probably couldn’t careless. Actually I’m sure the don’t care.

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I guess all the training at other clubs paid off. EM sends new arrivals to the CSP while homegrown players get to pay and play as backups to the stars. #theEMway


It actually should be about talent....but clearly wasn’t, seems more like a job hand to me [/quote]

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Anonymous #723723 06/18/19 08:44 PM
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Didn’t the EM 03 team go to finals last year? Now they look like they will not even qualify for CL if they as much as tie Match Fit


What Finals? This is a showcase, right?


League. To qualify for CL EM needs to win one game
To qualify for CL MF would need 2 EM losses and at least a tie vs Maryland.

The issue is that EM has a great postseason last year.


The issue is the remaining superstar has nothing to play for no.


Ship meet ice-burg.


Is EM 03 losing players?

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Anonymous #723735 06/19/19 08:41 AM
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Anonymous #723738 06/19/19 09:26 AM
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Where is everyone going?

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Anonymous #723746 06/19/19 11:04 AM
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Where is everyone going?


Wondering the same thing? Why the defections from Villa?

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Anonymous #723829 06/20/19 07:41 PM
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Where is everyone going?


Wondering the same thing? Why the defections from Villa?


Hint! https://media0.giphy.com/media/XbAX...0c192d2e31585345b6abee&rid=giphy.gif

Re: ECNL Fall 2018/Spring 2019
Larry Miller #724116 06/30/19 08:43 PM
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Kudos to world class 02s on being 3-0 at nationals beside PDA local teams were not veru very impressive

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Anonymous #724124 07/01/19 08:42 AM
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Kudos to world class 02s on being 3-0 at nationals beside PDA local teams were not veru very impressive


Doesn't matter the league - on the national stage not many area teams or clubs are standouts. That's why all the arguments over who is #1 locally are a waste of effort.

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Anonymous #724127 07/01/19 09:34 AM
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Totally disagree, a lot of different factors go into advancing and winning a National title.
Em 03 had a great run last year to finals . This year it was a 3 way tie in group and lost out on advancing . Refs have a big influence on determining these close games . SUSA 03 had 2 ties and a win and could have advanced . PDA was in a three way tie and advanced. To say that local teams are not competing at a high level is fake news .

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Totally disagree, a lot of different factors go into advancing and winning a National title.
Em 03 had a great run last year to finals . This year it was a 3 way tie in group and lost out on advancing . Refs have a big influence on determining these close games . SUSA 03 had 2 ties and a win and could have advanced . PDA was in a three way tie and advanced. To say that local teams are not competing at a high level is fake news .


Same PDA teams that were easily eliminated at GDA playoffs last year are performing well only BECAUSE ECNL is not a competitive league. They are working against B teams from west coast and Texas.

Other top local teams are still not getting respect (either GDA - where northeastern teams lost about all games, or ECNL where teams like SUSA are not ready to play yet).

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And I totally disagree with the above post. So many anonymous parents trashed GDA, trash Albertson, trash Fury and ask why are the parents getting taken and staying and wondering where the players are going? The answer is quite simple, “there is no better place to go”. Soccer on LI is dysfunctional and broken. LI clubs and teams have dropped not only on the Regional and National levels but it shows when they travel to National tournaments. Colleges no longer see these clubs as a competitive in training or in games. If the choice is picking a player from one of these LI clubs or a higher more respected clubs who do you think they will choose. Talking about the EM 03’s they did not make the top group but the lowest showcase level. You talk about Albertson traveling to SD with there results, well EM welcome to the club. As far as SUSA 03’s there record at the tournament speaks for itself as well, NOT GOOD ENOUGH. This is not fake news but reality. All the DA & ECNL Clubs have the same problem. Lack of good trainers, low level competition and competitiveness on each team and lack of depth of talented players. These teams have diminished over the years of quality across the board from those running these clubs to trainers. It shows when they play against other Regions. This is not just an Albertson problem but a LI problem. You ask where the Albertson players are going? The answer is the same is every parent who asks the same questions on the ECNL clubs? There is no solution or answer unless I want to travel.

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Anonymous #724133 07/01/19 12:45 PM
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And I totally disagree with the above post. So many anonymous parents trashed GDA, trash Albertson, trash Fury and ask why are the parents getting taken and staying and wondering where the players are going? The answer is quite simple, “there is no better place to go”. Soccer on LI is dysfunctional and broken. LI clubs and teams have dropped not only on the Regional and National levels but it shows when they travel to National tournaments. Colleges no longer see these clubs as a competitive in training or in games. If the choice is picking a player from one of these LI clubs or a higher more respected clubs who do you think they will choose. Talking about the EM 03’s they did not make the top group but the lowest showcase level. You talk about Albertson traveling to SD with there results, well EM welcome to the club. As far as SUSA 03’s there record at the tournament speaks for itself as well, NOT GOOD ENOUGH. This is not fake news but reality. All the DA & ECNL Clubs have the same problem. Lack of good trainers, low level competition and competitiveness on each team and lack of depth of talented players. These teams have diminished over the years of quality across the board from those running these clubs to trainers. It shows when they play against other Regions. This is not just an Albertson problem but a LI problem. You ask where the Albertson players are going? The answer is the same is every parent who asks the same questions on the ECNL clubs? There is no solution or answer unless I want to travel.


You people all sound so ridiculously stupid with all these complaints and comparisons. Fury, Susa, EM and even LISC sent teams to National playoffs. Most in multiple age groups. These kids are competing against dozens of other teams from across the country to try and advance. Some years are going to be luckier than others. Each club has kids committing to kick ass college programs, so I'm not really sure what exactly you're expecting.

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Larry Miller #724206 07/03/19 03:25 PM
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And why is there no depth on any of the LI teams to make them competitive on a regional and/or national level?

It is because there are TOO MANY clubs on LI with a me, me, me attitude. LI has plenty of top quality players at all age groups. But, when there are 2 GDA, 2 ECNL and whatever other alphabet leagues out there all trying to get the top players, each club is forced to take anybody they can to fill out rosters in order to field teams, and the lack of depth past the top 5 on each is obvious.

What LI needs is a totally unbiased tryout - everybody is invited and is encouraged by their home club to attend - nobody gets selected because of who they know, or how much money they throw out there. The tryout needs to be done by somebody unaffiliated with any LI club. Each team gets the top 18 from LI. These teams would be able to compete with any team from anywhere in talent.

And, then a trainer is selected for each team from the multitude of trainers here on LI. Again, this has to be done without bias as to who they know and where they currently train players.

The dilution of talent spread out across too many clubs is the reason for the decline of LI soccer as compared to the rest of the country, and it's not the players' fault.

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Kudos to world class 02s on being 3-0 at nationals beside PDA local teams were not veru very impressive


Doesn't matter the league - on the national stage not many area teams or clubs are standouts. That's why all the arguments over who is #1 locally are a waste of effort.


who cares who is relevant on the national stage? surely parents just care about how good their kids are.

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