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Barca Facility Project Construction Halted
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By Nicholas Spangler
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Smithtown officials have ordered a halt to work on a portion of the Kings Park site of a proposed youth academy for a major European soccer club, saying developers took so much sand off the property they left a steep, unstable slope.

The town’s Sept. 26 order forbids further excavation or addition of material to the 40-foot-tall northern slope of the site, a 44-acre former sand mine off Old Northport Road.

Town engineer Mark Riley said removal of sand from the area earlier this year had created a roughly 45-degree slope — about twice as steep as had been approved — that threatened to erode material and cut into a 50-foot buffer between the site and homes on Marvin Drive.

The homes are not in jeopardy, officials said, but neighbors have complained that the buffer is too narrow, exposing them to dust, noise and the unappealing view of acres of dirt.

The Manhattan-based developer, Prospect Sports Partners, must submit plans to fix the slope and address a number of other design concerns before the company proceeds with construction, town officials said.

In the middle of the dispute is FC Barcelona, the Spanish soccer team that is expanding into the U.S. market with five youth academies already in place. The Kings Park facility would be its first in the U.S. Northeast.

Riley said Prospect Sports told him about 30,000 cubic yards of sand had been removed under the approved site plan. The company paid a sand-removal fee to the town of more than $10,000. “They were going to give it to a concrete plant in a barter plan,” Riley said.

Principals of Prospect Sports Partners did not respond to questions emailed to the company’s attorney, J. Timothy Shea.

The order stipulates that town engineers must approve a plan to “create a stable slope and work area” before work there can start again. Town officials said last week that Prospect Sports officials had agreed to make corrections, but that no plan had been submitted. The order does not prohibit work on other areas of the site.

A drone photograph of the slope taken by the town on Oct. 25 shows that sections of the buffer had been undermined, sending topsoil tumbling and leaving an orange mesh fence dangling. Town officials said they do not think any construction has started.

Prospect Sports Partners in 2014 submitted plans to the town for a $33 million multisport complex at the site. Plans called for five outdoor multipurpose fields with a concession building, a 3,600-square-foot pool, a 65,040-square-foot building with indoor sports fields and a training center, two medical offices for sports medicine and rehabilitation, as well as space for retail and restaurant use, and more than 1,100 parking spaces.

Town officials approved the site plan in July 2015. Work was to have started within months. By the fall, however, a company official said in a town public hearing that a solar energy facility proposed for another Old Northport Road location had scared potential tenants away. The solar project has since been approved.

Dot Weisse, 77, whose Marvin Drive house overlooks the site, said she was simply hoping for an end to dust, noise and even a frog infestation that she blamed on work conducted there. She looked forward to construction of the soccer facility, she said. “It can’t be worse than this,” she said.

FC Barcelona announced late this month that the team plans to open a training academy at the site for thousands of Long Island boys and girls by 2019, and project engineers have told town officials privately that they hope to open two fields there by spring.

The team has no role in building the complex, said Arno Trabesinger, managing director for FC Barcelona in the Americas. The team will take 15 percent of the royalties income and 50 percent of the project’s profits.

Trabesinger said he was unaware of the town’s stop-work order, but said he “absolutely” had confidence in Prospect Sports to get the job done, he said, calling the company “very strong and very experienced.”

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Larry Miller #695638 11/03/17 03:08 PM
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Wow. Barca has to be nervous now... That's what happened when you dance with the devil.

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Larry Miller #695651 11/03/17 04:29 PM
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They have the best teams on LI and soon will have best facility on LI. Just a minor issue.

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Anonymous #695652 11/03/17 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. Barca has to be nervous now... That's what happened when you dance with the devil.


Anyone who has been involved with large construction projects knows there will be multiple work stop orders due to safety or for variances to the approved plans but these are a matter of fact in construction and nothing out of the ordinary. That neighbors are unhappy with construction less than 20 yards from their properties is also understandable but again nothing out of the ordinary and it looks like they want the project to move ahead. Nothing to do with the devil, so far at least...

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They have the best teams on LI and soon will have best facility on LI. Just a minor issue.




Wish my kids were young ; this looks like the place to be .

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Wow 15 & 50 this is bigger money maker then hedge funds.
15% royalties off the top and then 50% of the profits ...to call it Barca
And the LI parents are the clowns to pay the piper!

Good Luck and hang on to dream of playing there in 2019

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow 15 & 50 this is bigger money maker then hedge funds.
15% royalties off the top and then 50% of the profits ...to call it Barca
And the LI parents are the clowns to pay the piper!

Good Luck and hang on to dream of playing there in 2019


Agreed,only the best of the best will be selected to play.

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“A drone photograph of the slope taken by the town on Oct. 25 shows that sections of the buffer had been undermined, sending topsoil tumbling and leaving an orange mesh fence dangling. Town officials said they do not think any construction has started.”

Hey isn’t this an exact contradiction to what has been told to the parents and what the brigade of Barca community managers have been saying? It’s pretty apparent that there is a concerted effort to control the narrative

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“A drone photograph of the slope taken by the town on Oct. 25 shows that sections of the buffer had been undermined, sending topsoil tumbling and leaving an orange mesh fence dangling. Town officials said they do not think any construction has started.”

Hey isn’t this an exact contradiction to what has been told to the parents and what the brigade of Barca community managers have been saying? It’s pretty apparent that there is a concerted effort to control the narrative


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Dot Weisse, 77, whose Marvin Drive house overlooks the site, said she was simply hoping for an end to dust, noise and even a frog infestation that she blamed on work conducted there. She looked forward to construction of the soccer facility, she said. “It can’t be worse than this,” she said.


Let's just wait for the dust to settle folks... Literally. The training is top notch. Our team looks great and progressing faster than I anticipated. The current practice and practice locations are actually more convenient for us, but we are also looking forward to playing at that amazing proposed facility. I'm just a parent of a very happy soccer kid but if you want to categorize me as part of the Barca brigade, so be it. Forca Barca! "Més que un club"

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So without knowing first hand I do have a good source. I was told Barca is staying in this market but hearing from someone I know that works in the MLS offices in NYC, they are looking to break the arrangement with PSP as they have not been honest from the start of this projecT. If that's true, where do they land as they are not leaving??? Anybody else playing for Barca hear this? My son is in the 2004 group.

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This is that shady ground that kept me away for the 1 st season. I hope things work out. The 04 team is very good and we hope to play them (or join them) in the future.

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If the plans go through, the only benefactors will be the younger age groups, those u15 and above will not be around.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So without knowing first hand I do have a good source. I was told Barca is staying in this market but hearing from someone I know that works in the MLS offices in NYC, they are looking to break the arrangement with PSP as they have not been honest from the start of this projecT. If that's true, where do they land as they are not leaving??? Anybody else playing for Barca hear this? My son is in the 2004 group.

have not heard this. my son is playing for the club as well. what does MLS have to do with Barca other than gossip though?

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So without knowing first hand I do have a good source. I was told Barca is staying in this market but hearing from someone I know that works in the MLS offices in NYC, they are looking to break the arrangement with PSP as they have not been honest from the start of this projecT. If that's true, where do they land as they are not leaving??? Anybody else playing for Barca hear this? My son is in the 2004 group.

have not heard this. my son is playing for the club as well. what does MLS have to do with Barca other than gossip though?


It's all gossip, the project will move forward after they rectify the issues. But will delay it as we all expect.

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I guarantee that some crazed Barça parent unknowingly tipped off FCB to all the nonsense surrounding PSP. I personally know a parent who called FCB corporate back in Spain several months ago to enquire about the club on Long Island. He’s up there on the neurotic parent scale but by no means does he have the belt. It’s plausible that some kid’s parents has been following these threads, contacts whoever will talk to him/her at FCB and anoints him/herself as the mouthpiece for their kids team. The old, “Bunch of parents have been hearing, Blah, Blah, Blah...” Could you imagine if FCB pulled the rug out, there would be a line of people whit sh*t eating grins.

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I guarantee that some crazed Barça parent unknowingly tipped off FCB to all the nonsense surrounding PSP. I personally know a parent who called FCB corporate back in Spain several months ago to enquire about the club on Long Island. He’s up there on the neurotic parent scale but by no means does he have the belt. It’s plausible that some kid’s parents has been following these threads, contacts whoever will talk to him/her at FCB and anoints him/herself as the mouthpiece for their kids team. The old, “Bunch of parents have been hearing, Blah, Blah, Blah...” Could you imagine if FCB pulled the rug out, there would be a line of people whit sh*t eating grins.


I don't agree with that completely. The ignorant would be smiling but my son plays for a young SUSA NPL team and I think Barca being here is great for youth soccer. I also think what Susa is doing is also great. I think Barca will push Susa to be better which is my hope.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guarantee that some crazed Barça parent unknowingly tipped off FCB to all the nonsense surrounding PSP. I personally know a parent who called FCB corporate back in Spain several months ago to enquire about the club on Long Island. He’s up there on the neurotic parent scale but by no means does he have the belt. It’s plausible that some kid’s parents has been following these threads, contacts whoever will talk to him/her at FCB and anoints him/herself as the mouthpiece for their kids team. The old, “Bunch of parents have been hearing, Blah, Blah, Blah...” Could you imagine if FCB pulled the rug out, there would be a line of people whit sh*t eating grins.


I don't agree with that completely. The ignorant would be smiling but my son plays for a young SUSA NPL team and I think Barca being here is great for youth soccer. I also think what Susa is doing is also great. I think Barca will push Susa to be better which is my hope.


I think part of the vilification that Barça has garnered is justified by just how arrogant and self-important some of the parents are on the forum boards despite being oblivious to one negative story after another of the club’s own doing. Yeah we get it, “More then a Club,” but what about “if it looks and sounds like a duck...it’s a duck.” It’s starting to look more and more my friend like you got sold a duck for Thanksging dinner. Just sayin.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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I guarantee that some crazed Barça parent unknowingly tipped off FCB to all the nonsense surrounding PSP. I personally know a parent who called FCB corporate back in Spain several months ago to enquire about the club on Long Island. He’s up there on the neurotic parent scale but by no means does he have the belt. It’s plausible that some kid’s parents has been following these threads, contacts whoever will talk to him/her at FCB and anoints him/herself as the mouthpiece for their kids team. The old, “Bunch of parents have been hearing, Blah, Blah, Blah...” Could you imagine if FCB pulled the rug out, there would be a line of people whit sh*t eating grins.


I don't agree with that completely. The ignorant would be smiling but my son plays for a young SUSA NPL team and I think Barca being here is great for youth soccer. I also think what Susa is doing is also great. I think Barca will push Susa to be better which is my hope.


I think part of the vilification that Barça has garnered is justified by just how arrogant and self-important some of the parents are on the forum boards despite being oblivious to one negative story after another of the club’s own doing. Yeah we get it, “More then a Club,” but what about “if it looks and sounds like a duck...it’s a duck.” It’s starting to look more and more my friend like you got sold a duck for Thanksging dinner. Just sayin.


Did you even read the preceding post, or was the hunger to slam Barca so great, that it simpily did not matter - you are right, when when something quacks like a duck, it is usually a duck.

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Which league is the new Barca fakademey 2003 "B" and "C" teams playing in? maybe they haven't started yet?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which league is the new Barca fakademey 2003 "B" and "C" teams playing in? maybe they haven't started yet?


I think with your mom

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Which league is the new Barca fakademey 2003 "B" and "C" teams playing in? maybe they haven't started yet?


I think with your mom

Mom League. Division 1.

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What is happening with this facility? Is the construction still halted?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is happening with this facility? Is the construction still halted?


If you read the order from the town of Smithtown they only halted work on the north side where they have the slope issue. They are allowed to continue working on the rest of the facility. Whether they are working on the rest of the facility or not I have no idea.

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