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Can a player play for an EDP and NPL team at the same time ??
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Hi am a parent who's not really versed with all the rules that nowadays girls and boys soccer has but I have a daughter who is currently playing in the NPL travel Premier league.
My question is can she also play for an EDP team at the same time ? Thanks for your help.

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Both card through US Club so they would have to play at the same club since US Club will not allow dual carding across clubs.

Keep in mind EDP D1 carries the NPL designation.

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Cannot play on two teams in NPL at the same time even if in same club

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no it does not

EDP has a SEPARATE division Called EDL for NPL

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The only way to be dual carded is one team is a club team and one team is an a academy team (e.g. Long Island RR).

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Cannot play on two teams in NPL at the same time even if in same club


I agree about two different clubs but not about SAME club.

Just to clarify, you can play on two different npl teams with the same club. For example you are born in 2001 playing for SPA. You can play on level for the SPA 2001 team and play up on the SPA 2000 team, assuming you are rostered for both teams.

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That is correct. My D is doubled up on an age appropriate and one-year old team within the same club. Games are almost always back to back so it's not a big deal to stick around for an extra 90 minutes. Which is why, looking at the bigger picture I'd have to ask the OP why you'd want to do it all to begin with? There will always be conflicts and neither team will be happy about it. The player and the family can easily burn out. Pick the best fit and go with that. Look for supplamental camps, clinics, etc. to fill in if necessary

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Could a player play in a club team-U11 (he is not on the premier team but rather a national 8-3ed team) as well as an academy team (it's EDP, different county but same state-NJ). My son's current club is local but the team he is on puts their focus on the premier team. He tried out for an academy team (EDP and it's an international academy) and made the team but it's not local. I'm looking to continue his development but not many opportunities are local so was wondering if he is able to play an academy and club if schedules don't conflict?

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Yes if the club they are carded to participates in both leagues. NPL division of EDP would be just that but I am sure you're asking about NYCSL NPL and EDP.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Could a player play in a club team-U11 (he is not on the premier team but rather a national 8-3ed team) as well as an academy team (it's EDP, different county but same state-NJ). My son's current club is local but the team he is on puts their focus on the premier team. He tried out for an academy team (EDP and it's an international academy) and made the team but it's not local. I'm looking to continue his development but not many opportunities are local so was wondering if he is able to play an academy and club if schedules don't conflict?


If both teams are using US Club passes then the only way you can play on both is if they were within the same club. If you are talking two different clubs the only way you could do both is if one team was playing in a US Youth Soccer based league while the other was playing in a US Club Soccer based league.

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Both card through US Club so they would have to play at the same club since US Club will not allow dual carding across clubs.

Keep in mind EDP D1 carries the NPL designation.


EDP D1 does not carry the NPL designation, EDP NPL does...
D1 is just D1

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Can a player from NYCSL NPL play for a a PRE ECNL team from a different club??

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Can a player from NYCSL NPL play for a a PRE ECNL team from a different club??



No. Pre-ECNL teams in this region are part of NE NPL program, essentially they are NPL teams with Pre-ECNL designation, but still NPL.

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Could a player play in a club team-U11 (he is not on the premier team but rather a national 8-3ed team) as well as an academy team (it's EDP, different county but same state-NJ). My son's current club is local but the team he is on puts their focus on the premier team. He tried out for an academy team (EDP and it's an international academy) and made the team but it's not local. I'm looking to continue his development but not many opportunities are local so was wondering if he is able to play an academy and club if schedules don't conflict?


There is only one true "academy" program and that USDA run by USSF. "Academy" is a marketing term used by non USDA clubs and is tossed around as often as the term "elite"

As for doing travel and club, U11 would probably be the last year you'd possibly want to do it. Assuming the club team has better coaching, he won't get much from travel other than more touches on the ball. You'll also find there will be conflicts and it can be exhausting as well. Priority always has to go to club, so when he starts missing travel events that coach and the other players won't be too happy about it

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I'm a soccer ref, here are the rules. There are a lot of them.
I attached the links to the website if this helps you.

FROM ECNL:
Can players be dual registered with two US Club Soccer members at the same time?
Only in limited circumstances, such as between an academy and club, or a league select team, with the permission of the club. In all cases, however, the player’s first commitment should be with his club.
ECNL players are not allowed to be dual rostered (on an ECNL roster, a US Club
roster, and/or USYS roster) with different clubs.
For example, you cannot be on the Penn Fusion ‘98G ECNL roster and on Club
ABC’s USYS roster
http://usclubsoccer.org/about/faqs/


FROM NPL (NE): Player Registration. All players on a NPL Roster must be NPL Registered Players. A player may only be rostered to one (1) NPL Club each NPL
Season, except pursuant to the Transfer Regulations provided below. A NPL Registered Player may play for any NPL Team in
the NPL Club for which the player is age eligible. Younger players on a NPL Team may
play on the older NPL teams within their NPL Club, and shall not count towards the
roster limit for such older NPL team. Age eligibility is determined by Exhibit A of these
Regulations. Notwithstanding the foregoing, every NPL Registered Player may only play
on one (1) NPL Team per day and may only play one (1) NPL Game per day. A NPL
Registered Player may play on different NPL Teams within her NPL Club from game-togame
during the NPL Regular Season. (http://nationalpremierleagues.com/_files/northeast-girls-npl/league-information/NPL%20-%20Base%20Competition%20Rules%202016-17%20(Northeast%20Girls%20NPL).pdf)
Discovery Players are tied to the team in which they are carded. They are not eligible to play up or down.



FROM NYCSL NPL: All teams must be registered with NYCSL and have their US Club Soccer passes and their official US Club Soccer team roster. All information must be current. All players must be on the single printed US Club official roster; none may be handwritten. US Club passes, all from the same club as the team (s) he is playing for, must be used for all NCYSL NPL play. No coach or player may participate if his or her pass is not provided to the referee.

If the individual picture is not on the ID card and/or the card is not laminated, the individual will not be eligible for the match.

All players from a Club are eligible to participate in NPL matches within the age eligibility limits.
https://www.nyclubsoccerleague.com/html/npl/next/rules.asp


FROM EDP:
Players can only play for ONE club. Teams can use Club Pass players who are
carded with in their club. Teams cannot use any player who is carded to
another Club.
http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0100/3056/EDP_League_Rules.pdf

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm a soccer ref, here are the rules. There are a lot of them.
I attached the links to the website if this helps you.

FROM ECNL:
Can players be dual registered with two US Club Soccer members at the same time?
Only in limited circumstances, such as between an academy and club, or a league select team, with the permission of the club. In all cases, however, the player’s first commitment should be with his club.
ECNL players are not allowed to be dual rostered (on an ECNL roster, a US Club
roster, and/or USYS roster) with different clubs.
For example, you cannot be on the Penn Fusion ‘98G ECNL roster and on Club
ABC’s USYS roster
http://usclubsoccer.org/about/faqs/


FROM NPL (NE): Player Registration. All players on a NPL Roster must be NPL Registered Players. A player may only be rostered to one (1) NPL Club each NPL
Season, except pursuant to the Transfer Regulations provided below. A NPL Registered Player may play for any NPL Team in
the NPL Club for which the player is age eligible. Younger players on a NPL Team may
play on the older NPL teams within their NPL Club, and shall not count towards the
roster limit for such older NPL team. Age eligibility is determined by Exhibit A of these
Regulations. Notwithstanding the foregoing, every NPL Registered Player may only play
on one (1) NPL Team per day and may only play one (1) NPL Game per day. A NPL
Registered Player may play on different NPL Teams within her NPL Club from game-togame
during the NPL Regular Season. (http://nationalpremierleagues.com/_files/northeast-girls-npl/league-information/NPL%20-%20Base%20Competition%20Rules%202016-17%20(Northeast%20Girls%20NPL).pdf)
Discovery Players are tied to the team in which they are carded. They are not eligible to play up or down.



FROM NYCSL NPL: All teams must be registered with NYCSL and have their US Club Soccer passes and their official US Club Soccer team roster. All information must be current. All players must be on the single printed US Club official roster; none may be handwritten. US Club passes, all from the same club as the team (s) he is playing for, must be used for all NCYSL NPL play. No coach or player may participate if his or her pass is not provided to the referee.

If the individual picture is not on the ID card and/or the card is not laminated, the individual will not be eligible for the match.

All players from a Club are eligible to participate in NPL matches within the age eligibility limits.
https://www.nyclubsoccerleague.com/html/npl/next/rules.asp


FROM EDP:
Players can only play for ONE club. Teams can use Club Pass players who are
carded with in their club. Teams cannot use any player who is carded to
another Club.
http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0100/3056/EDP_League_Rules.pdf



If my daughter plays on the 02 NPL team, can she be dual rostered to play on the 02 EDP team? and Yes, its the same club

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm a soccer ref, here are the rules. There are a lot of them.
I attached the links to the website if this helps you.

FROM ECNL:
Can players be dual registered with two US Club Soccer members at the same time?
Only in limited circumstances, such as between an academy and club, or a league select team, with the permission of the club. In all cases, however, the player’s first commitment should be with his club.
ECNL players are not allowed to be dual rostered (on an ECNL roster, a US Club
roster, and/or USYS roster) with different clubs.
For example, you cannot be on the Penn Fusion ‘98G ECNL roster and on Club
ABC’s USYS roster
http://usclubsoccer.org/about/faqs/


FROM NPL (NE): Player Registration. All players on a NPL Roster must be NPL Registered Players. A player may only be rostered to one (1) NPL Club each NPL
Season, except pursuant to the Transfer Regulations provided below. A NPL Registered Player may play for any NPL Team in
the NPL Club for which the player is age eligible. Younger players on a NPL Team may
play on the older NPL teams within their NPL Club, and shall not count towards the
roster limit for such older NPL team. Age eligibility is determined by Exhibit A of these
Regulations. Notwithstanding the foregoing, every NPL Registered Player may only play
on one (1) NPL Team per day and may only play one (1) NPL Game per day. A NPL
Registered Player may play on different NPL Teams within her NPL Club from game-togame
during the NPL Regular Season. (http://nationalpremierleagues.com/_files/northeast-girls-npl/league-information/NPL%20-%20Base%20Competition%20Rules%202016-17%20(Northeast%20Girls%20NPL).pdf)
Discovery Players are tied to the team in which they are carded. They are not eligible to play up or down.



FROM NYCSL NPL: All teams must be registered with NYCSL and have their US Club Soccer passes and their official US Club Soccer team roster. All information must be current. All players must be on the single printed US Club official roster; none may be handwritten. US Club passes, all from the same club as the team (s) he is playing for, must be used for all NCYSL NPL play. No coach or player may participate if his or her pass is not provided to the referee.

If the individual picture is not on the ID card and/or the card is not laminated, the individual will not be eligible for the match.

All players from a Club are eligible to participate in NPL matches within the age eligibility limits.
https://www.nyclubsoccerleague.com/html/npl/next/rules.asp


FROM EDP:
Players can only play for ONE club. Teams can use Club Pass players who are
carded with in their club. Teams cannot use any player who is carded to
another Club.
http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0100/3056/EDP_League_Rules.pdf



If my daughter plays on the 02 NPL team, can she be dual rostered to play on the 02 EDP team? and Yes, its the same club



Yes she can play for both as they are 2 separate leagues

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm a soccer ref, here are the rules. There are a lot of them.
I attached the links to the website if this helps you.

FROM ECNL:
Can players be dual registered with two US Club Soccer members at the same time?
Only in limited circumstances, such as between an academy and club, or a league select team, with the permission of the club. In all cases, however, the player’s first commitment should be with his club.
ECNL players are not allowed to be dual rostered (on an ECNL roster, a US Club
roster, and/or USYS roster) with different clubs.
For example, you cannot be on the Penn Fusion ‘98G ECNL roster and on Club
ABC’s USYS roster
http://usclubsoccer.org/about/faqs/


FROM NPL (NE): Player Registration. All players on a NPL Roster must be NPL Registered Players. A player may only be rostered to one (1) NPL Club each NPL
Season, except pursuant to the Transfer Regulations provided below. A NPL Registered Player may play for any NPL Team in
the NPL Club for which the player is age eligible. Younger players on a NPL Team may
play on the older NPL teams within their NPL Club, and shall not count towards the
roster limit for such older NPL team. Age eligibility is determined by Exhibit A of these
Regulations. Notwithstanding the foregoing, every NPL Registered Player may only play
on one (1) NPL Team per day and may only play one (1) NPL Game per day. A NPL
Registered Player may play on different NPL Teams within her NPL Club from game-togame
during the NPL Regular Season. (http://nationalpremierleagues.com/_files/northeast-girls-npl/league-information/NPL%20-%20Base%20Competition%20Rules%202016-17%20(Northeast%20Girls%20NPL).pdf)
Discovery Players are tied to the team in which they are carded. They are not eligible to play up or down.



FROM NYCSL NPL: All teams must be registered with NYCSL and have their US Club Soccer passes and their official US Club Soccer team roster. All information must be current. All players must be on the single printed US Club official roster; none may be handwritten. US Club passes, all from the same club as the team (s) he is playing for, must be used for all NCYSL NPL play. No coach or player may participate if his or her pass is not provided to the referee.

If the individual picture is not on the ID card and/or the card is not laminated, the individual will not be eligible for the match.

All players from a Club are eligible to participate in NPL matches within the age eligibility limits.
https://www.nyclubsoccerleague.com/html/npl/next/rules.asp


FROM EDP:
Players can only play for ONE club. Teams can use Club Pass players who are
carded with in their club. Teams cannot use any player who is carded to
another Club.
http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0100/3056/EDP_League_Rules.pdf



If my daughter plays on the 02 NPL team, can she be dual rostered to play on the 02 EDP team? and Yes, its the same club


ASK YOUR DOC?

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Could a player play in a club team-U11 (he is not on the premier team but rather a national 8-3ed team) as well as an academy team (it's EDP, different county but same state-NJ). My son's current club is local but the team he is on puts their focus on the premier team. He tried out for an academy team (EDP and it's an international academy) and made the team but it's not local. I'm looking to continue his development but not many opportunities are local so was wondering if he is able to play an academy and club if schedules don't conflict?


There is only one true "academy" program and that USDA run by USSF. "Academy" is a marketing term used by non USDA clubs and is tossed around as often as the term "elite"

As for doing travel and club, U11 would probably be the last year you'd possibly want to do it. Assuming the club team has better coaching, he won't get much from travel other than more touches on the ball. You'll also find there will be conflicts and it can be exhausting as well. Priority always has to go to club, so when he starts missing travel events that coach and the other players won't be too happy about it


Rational answer. Most kids are done dual rostering no later than U12. It's usefulness is usually gone or isn't worth all the conflicts, stress and exhaustion. Better to get "extra" training doing occasional clinics and, more importantly, work on one's own

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Originally Posted by Anonymous4u
Hi am a parent who's not really versed with all the rules that nowadays girls and boys soccer has but I have a daughter who is currently playing in the NPL travel Premier league.
My question is can she also play for an EDP team at the same time ? Thanks for your help.


And why in the world would you subject your daughter to do this?

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Dude, why would you subject your daughter to more meaningless soccer? Old but true, it's about quality, not quantity, so go find a DA or ECNL team next year!

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We tried to do this this past fall. My daughter is an NYSCL NPL goalie. Her club also has EDP teams. We tried to dual roster her with an EDP only club that plays D2. She had the permission of both clubs. EDP would not allow it because her home club had EDP teams even if the teams would never play each other.

Another family tried to do a similar thing. She also played NYSCL NPL in the same home club (with EDP teams). She wanted to dual roster on an EDP only club playing on a boys team. EDP would not allow it though there's no way the two teams would ever have played (one girls team, one boys team).

Bottom Line - even if you can get permission from the clubs and an exception from US soccer, EDP will not allow it if both clubs have any EDP team at any age group in any gender.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, the rest of the world has at least a 4/1 ratio of practices to games. In our country and especially in this region you have teams openly advertising that they play in NYCSL AND LIJSL as an example. Why? Because playing more games is more for the enjoyment of the adults than for the kids. Want to burn out your kid? By all means have them play with 2 teams! Then have them practice at least 4 times a week for both teams and then play Saturday AND Sunday for both leagues. This can lead to repetitive stress injuries or just exhaustion due to TOO MUCH activity and not enough rest to recover.
Try this:have your child wear a step/distance counter and collect the data. You will be amazed at how much they run during workout/practices and games!

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, the rest of the world has at least a 4/1 ratio of practices to games. In our country and especially in this region you have teams openly advertising that they play in NYCSL AND LIJSL as an example. Why? Because playing more games is more for the enjoyment of the adults than for the kids. Want to burn out your kid? By all means have them play with 2 teams! Then have them practice at least 4 times a week for both teams and then play Saturday AND Sunday for both leagues. This can lead to repetitive stress injuries or just exhaustion due to TOO MUCH activity and not enough rest to recover.
Try this:have your child wear a step/distance counter and collect the data. You will be amazed at how much they run during workout/practices and games!



Really just ignore everyone and see how your kid responds. Some kids play more and DON'T burn out. Some kids would be happy to play everyday. Repetitive stress injuries are not the result of seasonal abuse but rather year round abuse. Every kid is different.

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Originally Posted by LIRef77
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the rest of the world has at least a 4/1 ratio of practices to games. In our country and especially in this region you have teams openly advertising that they play in NYCSL AND LIJSL as an example. Why? Because playing more games is more for the enjoyment of the adults than for the kids. Want to burn out your kid? By all means have them play with 2 teams! Then have them practice at least 4 times a week for both teams and then play Saturday AND Sunday for both leagues. This can lead to repetitive stress injuries or just exhaustion due to TOO MUCH activity and not enough rest to recover.
Try this:have your child wear a step/distance counter and collect the data. You will be amazed at how much they run during workout/practices and games!



Really just ignore everyone and see how your kid responds. Some kids play more and DON'T burn out. Some kids would be happy to play everyday. Repetitive stress injuries are not the result of seasonal abuse but rather year round abuse. Every kid is different.


Wow, I did not know that you were an athletic trainer, coach or orthopedic surgeon. I had a player that I coached that played Club Soccer for me and played High School Soccer back when LIJSL was the dominant and only travel league on Long Island. She had shin splints which is a repetitive stress injury caused by OVERUSE due to playing 1-2 high school games per week, daily high school practice, and 1 weekend game for club soccer. She would miss one cub practice due to her Saturday High School game. Other players including my daughter that did the same we're constantly tired, rarely playing without pain and more susceptible to injuries. It was their choice to do this, not mine. I would discourage most players from doing this because it can lead to a lack of balance in their life and lengthen the recovery time for injuries and soreness, just a fact. Just my experienced, informed opinion based on FACTS.

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