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#464181 - 03/05/12 11:49 AM Re: High School Players Forced to Choose in Soccer’s New Way [Re: rhrhrh]
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ANOTHER TAKE ON THIS..

Los Angeles Times

Expanded soccer academy decision is a win-win

Elite young U.S. players will get more training and more opportunities will be created for high school players.

By Kevin Baxter

March 3, 2012 -- When Marie Ishida, head of the one of the nation's largest governing bodies for high school athletics, first heard that U.S. Soccer was planning to force kids to choose between playing for their school and training to play for their country she protested in what she felt was the most appropriate way possible.

She wrote a letter.

"Well, that didn't settle very well with us," remembers Ishida, executive director of the California Interscholastic Federation, which oversees sports programs at more than 1,500 member schools. "They frankly stopped talking to us."

So it was hardly news when the U.S. Soccer Development Academy followed through on its promise and expanded the academy season three months to 40 weeks overall, from September to June, beginning next fall. What may have been surprising, though, was the fact that Ishida and others like her have apparently made their peace with the plan.

"Our attitude's kind of been 'OK, we lose the elite athletes. But that leaves a spot for somebody else,'" she says.

In fact, U.S. Soccer's decision — once fraught with controversy — benefits both the national program as well as high school and other youth leagues. For the national program, lengthening the calendar for academy players will help close a critical gap the U.S. has long conceded to other nations, where top youth players train for 10 or more months each year.

But because the academy is open to elite players only, the loss to high school and other programs will be fewer than 4,000 U 15-16 and U 17-18 male players nationwide — or less than 1% of the current player pool. So while that's not enough to seriously affect the level of play, it does create 4,000 opportunities for kids who might not have made the cut before.

What started out as a feud has ended in a cease-fire — with both sides rightly claiming victory.

"They said their goal was to win a World Cup and they felt the only way to do that was to identify some of these club programs early," Ishida says. "And frankly CIF — and any state association's goal — is not necessarily to produce World Cup athletes or Division I scholarship recipients.

"Our goal is about participation. And about competition."

Besides, much of the hand-wringing and doomsday scenarios from high school officials overlooked that the academy calendar's growth was not only inevitable, but in many places — such as Southern California, Texas and the Pacific Northwest — it had already taken place.

In fact, 23 of the 78 soccer academy clubs nationwide — including eight spread from Temecula to San Diego — expanded to 40 weeks of training and games more than a year ago. That's about 28 weeks longer than many high school programs — but still far fewer than those in Sao Paulo, Brazil, where high school-aged kids train 1,000 hours a year at the local academy, or in Barcelona, where training runs 16 hours a week for 11 months.

"These kids need more hours in focused, intense training environments with players that [have] similar talent and similar commitment and motivation," says Tony Lepore, director of scouting for U.S. Soccer.

And they simply can't get that in most high schools or colleges, which are frequently judged by the diverse number of sports they offer. While that makes U.S. school programs unique worldwide, it also means athletes are frequently limited in the number of hours they can devote to any one endeavor.

In sports such as soccer, that structure has created a huge "training deficit."

"Soccer is not an American-driven game. [Elsewhere] soccer is all global," says U.S. national team coach Juergen Klinsmann, who grew up in the German club system. "It's 11 months a year. You might get three or four weeks off. That's it. So if a kid goes to college [in the U.S.] and plays a three-month season, he loses eight months compared to all the other kids the same age.

"You're not catching up [to] that anymore. So we have to come in and tell the players, 'This is just reality.'"

If playing high school soccer won't prep you for the World Cup, though, here's another reality: Not every player has the talent, the drive or even the desire to go that far. So the fact that U.S. Soccer has finally stepped forward and offered a structured and competitive alternative for elite athletes doesn't detract from the high school game or grassroots youth programs.

On the contrary, it enhances them by making the sport available to more players than ever before.

"The Academy isn't for everyone," says Don Ebert, the director of coaching for the Irvine-based Strikers FC. "If your dream is to wear the [U.S.] jersey, get paid to play as a professional and represent your country, then this is a different avenue. It's more demanding, it does take 10 months and you do train three times a week, but it's a choice.

"We finally have a vehicle for the first time for families and players to choose what's right for them."

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#464257 - 03/05/12 03:33 PM Re: High School Players Forced to Choose in Soccer’s New Way [Re: Anonymous]
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The reason why the US National Team will always be mediocre is that the best athletes in our country will almost always play another sport that offers a better chance for financial reward. And Soccer will never grow beyond its cult following because the US Media Industry cannot stand a sport in which they cannot show commercials every 2 to three minutes. So the Federation can pass a thousand silly rules but none of them will ever change these unpleasant facts-Kids who want to play HS and USSF will suffer. And nothing will change. We will still lose to Costa Rica and Hondorus in the games that matter- Sorry folks-

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#464275 - 03/05/12 05:29 PM Re: High School Players Forced to Choose in Soccer’s New Way [Re: Anonymous]
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Yes, of course. Ths is why the US beat Italy for the first time last week.........

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#464284 - 03/05/12 05:58 PM Re: High School Players Forced to Choose in Soccer’s New Way [Re: Anonymous]
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Im pretty sure the players on this MNT all played HS soccer and other school sports

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#464294 - 03/05/12 06:42 PM Re: High School Players Forced to Choose in Soccer’s New Way [Re: Anonymous]
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The subject of this tread has been dissected to the point of exhaustion in the Academy tread. So, to save everyone's time, just go there. I'm sure there's nothing you can post here that hasn't been analyzed to it's nuclear core

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#464298 - 03/05/12 06:57 PM Re: High School Players Forced to Choose in Soccer’s New Way [Re: Anonymous]
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If your kid is that good over seas. To the parent that says HS ball has more politics then that is a shame for you. I don't see that. Most coaches want to win. So if your kid is good enough they will play. Bottom line.

And the pool is usually not as strong on the HS side so this should be a non event. If your kid is dealing with politics in HS then he probably shouldn't be on a academy team. Probably not that good a player.

Just being honest

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#464353 - 03/05/12 10:48 PM Re: High School Players Forced to Choose in Soccer’s New Way [Re: Anonymous]
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If you are excited about winning a friendly in which our team was significantly outplayed in every concievable way, then party on Garth- You obviously have been hitting the water pipe a little too heavy dude. Let us know when you come back to this planet and regain the ability to reason objectively-

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#464379 - 03/06/12 08:21 AM Re: High School Players Forced to Choose in Soccer’s New Way [Re: Larry Miller]
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nice story but it's always about the money

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#464384 - 03/06/12 08:44 AM Re: High School Players Forced to Choose in Soccer’s New Way [Re: Anonymous]
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High School soccer has been a much better experience than club ball. It has built up my daughters confidence. It has made the transition from middle school to high school very easy because she knew all the upperclassmen on the team. Club ball may be where a college coach will see her,but, she is not looking to be a professional soccer player.
If only playing club ball is going to be the rule she would pick school ball.
How many kids on these club teams will actually play at the national level.
These clubs are getting carried away.

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#464404 - 03/06/12 10:21 AM Re: High School Players Forced to Choose in Soccer’s New Way [Re: Anonymous]
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Club soccer and school ball are totally different. When one is coached by a teacher and is open to all athletes, while one is soccer players and is based on good training. Everyone knows school ball is for fun and has its positives and negatives, but to take it to seriously is a joke. Have fun with it and take it for what its worth. Club ball should be where you learn the game and create the soccer atmosphere.

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