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#482634 - 06/21/12 02:22 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2011 - Spring 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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#482778 - 06/22/12 03:27 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2011 - Spring 2012 [Re: Just a Dad]
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Interesting article in the June e-letter from the Eastern New York Youth Soccer Association by ENYYSA Director of Coaching Education Tim Bradbury on what he believes should be the basis for how playing time is distributed. He indicates:“'Playing time', I believe for any player over 10 in a competitive league must be based
upon the following criteria:
1. Attendance at practice
2. Effort at practice
3. Attendance at warm up
4. Effort at warm up
5. Effectiveness in game – am I hurting or helping my team?"

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#483028 - 06/25/12 10:26 AM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2011 - Spring 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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Just because he's the DOC from ENY doesn't make it right. To use this criteria for U10 children in the US can be deemed inappropriate. Some U10s are playing on teams for the first time and are learning. They need to develop and learn the game. The game is different here, not all kids start playing at 2 or 3 years old. Here the emphasis is more on games then practice which i believe is solely because the adults want to see their kids in games. Therefore to not try to give every player equal playing time at young ages would be unfair. Attendance at practice and warmup are not in the control of the player. The parents control that. You may have a good player being penalized because of their parents. Younger players need to be in the game, not sitting on the bench longer than their team mates. That will only discourage them and anger their parents. Have you ever watched a U8 or U11 player on the bench? They are so distractable the last thing they may be watching is the game!

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#483161 - 06/26/12 09:11 AM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2011 - Spring 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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The person never said he/she believed it just that it was an interesting article.
Keep in mind that it is talking about competetive leagues not something like S.S.I., and just like school the ones who work hard and give it their all are rewarded with good grades. Should every kid recieve an A just for showing up to school?

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#483184 - 06/26/12 12:13 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2011 - Spring 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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I agree with the "hard work equals results" idea behind what is being said. There are intramural & SSI-type programs for kids who want to have less competition but still play organized soccer. Besides, fair competition is part of life. Kids who don't make most practices or who show up but don't try their best and are given equal playing time as those who do sends a bad message to the rest of the player.

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#483233 - 06/26/12 04:29 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2011 - Spring 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The person never said he/she believed it just that it was an interesting article.
Keep in mind that it is talking about competetive leagues not something like S.S.I., and just like school the ones who work hard and give it their all are rewarded with good grades. Should every kid recieve an A just for showing up to school?


I guess the question is, what if the kid is working hard but the results are just not there to permit the kid to earn an A. Should that kid still receive one? Or put another way, if two kids are working equally hard but one is getting better results, should they both equal equal time during game play? It's a close call for me, but I'd think that the answer is no.

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#483843 - 07/02/12 01:38 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2011 - Spring 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The person never said he/she believed it just that it was an interesting article.
Keep in mind that it is talking about competetive leagues not something like S.S.I., and just like school the ones who work hard and give it their all are rewarded with good grades. Should every kid recieve an A just for showing up to school?


I guess the question is, what if the kid is working hard but the results are just not there to permit the kid to earn an A. Should that kid still receive one? Or put another way, if two kids are working equally hard but one is getting better results, should they both equal equal time during game play? It's a close call for me, but I'd think that the answer is no.


I do agree with the article. Here is another excerpt: "Consider at what age players are capable of picking teams in a scrimmage situation and what values they use. By u10 they are normally considering three things: 1. How well is player A doing, will they help me win?
2. How hard is player A trying, will they help me win?
3. Do I need a defender, attacker etc…
4. Is player A my friend

So it seems the players get it but the parents do not. I believe we should all be concerned about the feeling of entitlement that many youth players seem to bring to practice. With echoes of conversations held by parents on car rides home they appear at practices and games with an attitude that screams loudly; 'I deserve and will play no matter what. My effort does not matter, how I perform does not matter, and if I do not get my minute’s mom and dad will scream until I do'”

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#483862 - 07/02/12 04:56 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2012 [Re: Larry Miller]
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Anyone have thoughts on the top BU 10 teams on the Island?

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#483866 - 07/02/12 07:12 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the top BU 10 teams on the Island?
There are none...they are only 10 years old!!! In 2 years half the kids will be burnt out for crazy parents wondering who the top teams are and thinking there kid is the best. Relax, understand at this age winning means nothing because they are so young and the few teams that do stay together will take a few more seasons for them to rise to the top and start playing each other, only then will you see how good the teams are.

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#483913 - 07/03/12 10:34 AM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the top BU 10 teams on the Island?

Here's an example of a top U-10 team. The East Islip Fire, we've played them since U-8 tournament teams and the coach of that team makes this wonderful sport so enjoyable for those kids and they love him for it, they have been steadily improving and will be an excellent team in the years to come.

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#483920 - 07/03/12 12:27 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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Agree 100%. Coach Frank & the boys are a class act.

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#484029 - 07/05/12 01:13 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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Is that why he cut players that now play up, coaches son plays for kk athletics and coordinators son was cut? Not sure about a top trained team?

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#484052 - 07/05/12 07:39 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the top BU 10 teams on the Island?

Here's an example of a top U-10 team. The East Islip Fire, we've played them since U-8 tournament teams and the coach of that team makes this wonderful sport so enjoyable for those kids and they love him for it, they have been steadily improving and will be an excellent team in the years to come.
KEEP ACTING LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN ADMIRING THIS TEAM FROM AFAR - REALIZE THAT SOME OF US HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND SEE RIGHT THRU PEOPLE LIKE YOU....PATHETIC. GOOD LUCK THIS SEASON COACH. COME UP WITH BETTER BOASTS...ERR POSTS.

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#484085 - 07/06/12 10:04 AM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2012 [Re: Anonymous]
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We've seen many posts here throughout the year from the Elmont contingent, especially when it comes to their fields. Can one of you substantiate or dispell the rumor that your kids are all moving to Met Oval? If moving, is it just this age group or did all of the Elmont family abandon ship for greener academy pastures? Or are the clubs merging? The silence on this topic has been deafening, and surprising considering the outspoken (and very proud) parents who have entertained us here.

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#484116 - 07/06/12 01:25 PM Re: LIJSL BU10 Fall 2011 - Spring 2012 [Re: Just a Dad]
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