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#460748 - 01/31/12 12:23 PM LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings
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#460753 - 01/31/12 12:44 PM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Larry Miller]
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It is simply a way for LIJ Soccer to have teams attend the convention.

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#460755 - 01/31/12 01:02 PM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
It is simply a way for LIJ Soccer to have teams attend the convention.


I understand that may not be a problem next year. LIJSL has finally gotten the message tyat the convention is dead...I hear they are closing up shop. You are right. No one wants to go...if they did, 550+ teams would not have applied for the MSC Pre-Spring Classic Kickoff which is the same weekend.

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#460756 - 01/31/12 01:25 PM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Larry Miller]
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If a player or a coach gets a red card during the game does that team automatically get zero points for that game?

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#460759 - 01/31/12 01:39 PM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
If a player or a coach gets a red card during the game does that team automatically get zero points for that game?


How does a no show referee factor in

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#460776 - 01/31/12 04:29 PM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Anonymous]
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And the winner is 157 points. I think you get that many
If you show up with your socks on.

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#460784 - 01/31/12 06:23 PM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Anonymous]
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The rankings are not useful without a feedback mechanism for each team. We have won, been in the middle, dropped lower, back up near the top with the same coach, kids and parents. It would help if the coach received a rating for the games prior to next season. The feedback sheets can be game unspecified but at least a team can see if it is the coaches, parents, player behavior, all three or something else that leads to a unsatisfactory sportsmanship score.

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#460795 - 01/31/12 09:08 PM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Anonymous]
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I was just wondering how the sportsmanshp ratings are figured out. Is it the refs that vote?

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#460805 - 01/31/12 10:57 PM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: weanie]
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dont overthink it....you will never figure it out.

Teams will come in first one season by a mile and then come in last the next season. No rhyme or reason

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#460814 - 02/01/12 08:32 AM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
dont overthink it....you will never figure it out.

Teams will come in first one season by a mile and then come in last the next season. No rhyme or reason


I've never seen that, you overexaggerate. I think it is fairly reflectice of the top team and the bottom teams. The middle group could be a bit subjective. If you behave well all year it will show, if you continually dont
do well it also shows.

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#460817 - 02/01/12 09:42 AM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
dont overthink it....you will never figure it out.

Teams will come in first one season by a mile and then come in last the next season. No rhyme or reason


I've never seen that, you overexaggerate. I think it is fairly reflectice of the top team and the bottom teams. The middle group could be a bit subjective. If you behave well all year it will show, if you continually dont
do well it also shows.


i actually had it happen to my team and the 3rd season we ended up
3rd. no cards, fights, parents or anything else to account for the drop.
if you win it, thats nice. if not, dont lose any sleep over it.
usually the majority of the teams in each division are grouped somewhat together. every now and then you will see an outlier at the bottom. if that outlier is consistently at the bottom, they are the ones to watch.

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#460819 - 02/01/12 09:58 AM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
dont overthink it....you will never figure it out.

Teams will come in first one season by a mile and then come in last the next season. No rhyme or reason


I've never seen that, you overexaggerate. I think it is fairly reflectice of the top team and the bottom teams. The middle group could be a bit subjective. If you behave well all year it will show, if you continually dont
do well it also shows.


i actually had it happen to my team and the 3rd season we ended up
3rd. no cards, fights, parents or anything else to account for the drop.
if you win it, thats nice. if not, dont lose any sleep over it.
usually the majority of the teams in each division are grouped somewhat together. every now and then you will see an outlier at the bottom. if that outlier is consistently at the bottom, they are the ones to watch.


I must say our division was pretty accurate with the bottom teams and us at the top. We have won several times (we have also won the division so we are not the team always getting killed and winning the Sportsmanship out of kindness). What you see is usually due to the coach and how annoying he/she is.

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#460824 - 02/01/12 10:34 AM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Anonymous]
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It is not always fights or cards that you lose sportsmanship points but how you conduct yourself. Sometimes loud mouth coaches that dissent on calls do not understand that they lost points for that, if a kid persists in complaining loses points on that, a parent yelling push them if they push you loses points on that.

Some folks just do not get it that these are kids playing out there.

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#460827 - 02/01/12 10:47 AM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Larry Miller]
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They also theoretically rank the teams on having the proper uniforms (matching socks and shorts) as well as the appearance of the coaches. You could be the most polite team in the world and still lose points if your kids don't tuck in their uniforms.

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#460836 - 02/01/12 11:41 AM Re: LIJSL Fall Sportsmanship Standings [Re: Anonymous]
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Get real, the uniform piece is 5 points out of 45 points, losing one or two for sloppy stuff is not as bad as losing 20 points for yelling or screaming.

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