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#513273 - 04/07/13 04:24 PM Re: GU16 Premier Fall 2012 / Spring 2013 [Re: Anonymous]  

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you need to check f u record. they may not be ecnl but they are best team on long island


If true and I have no reason to doubt you, they must have some good players. Why don't those girls go tryout for an ECNL team?


I asked them, they laughed and laughed and laughed, paused for a minute, asked me if I meant a LI based ECNL team, I said yes, and the laughing began anew.

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#513280 - 04/07/13 04:47 PM Re: GU16 Premier Fall 2012 / Spring 2013 [Re: Anonymous]  

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you need to check f u record. they may not be ecnl but they are best team on long island


If true and I have no reason to doubt you, they must have some good players. Why don't those girls go tryout for an ECNL team?


I asked them, they laughed and laughed and laughed, paused for a minute, asked me if I meant a LI based ECNL team, I said yes, and the laughing began anew.


I am surprised, most young athletes wANT TO CHALLANGE THEMSELVES.
My guess is that there club has mislead them and their parents about the value of moving on to the next level.Very selfish of the club but not out of the ordinary.

Best of luck to the girls!

#513284 - 04/07/13 05:35 PM Re: GU16 Premier Fall 2012 / Spring 2013 [Re: Anonymous]  

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you need to check f u record. they may not be ecnl but they are best team on long island


If true and I have no reason to doubt you, they must have some good players. Why don't those girls go tryout for an ECNL team?


I asked them, they laughed and laughed and laughed, paused for a minute, asked me if I meant a LI based ECNL team, I said yes, and the laughing began anew.


I am surprised, most young athletes wANT TO CHALLANGE THEMSELVES.
My guess is that there club has mislead them and their parents about the value of moving on to the next level.Very selfish of the club but not out of the ordinary.

Best of luck to the girls!


That is why they were laughing, LI ECNL teams are extremely weak and would present no challenge at all. They realized it is much more important at this age to learn how to play the game properly. Even a jackass like yourself must know how weak the LI ECNL teams are at this age group. Not really sure why. EM actually produces very good teams at the younger ages. Alby has gone to hell and a hand basket from U16 and younger. You blow your ECNL horn all you like, and it is accurate in many parts of the country, particularly out west. There simply is no denying that on LI, the ECNL choices are very weak teams relative to the other choices. If your willing to drive to NJ or CT for practices than you may find some good training.

Thanks for the good luck salutation but you definitely will need that luck more if your involved with ECNL on LI in this age group.

#513288 - 04/07/13 06:19 PM Re: GU16 Premier Fall 2012 / Spring 2013 [Re: Anonymous]  

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That is why they were laughing, LI ECNL teams are extremely weak and would present no challenge at all. They realized it is much more important at this age to learn how to play the game properly. Even a jackass like yourself must know how weak the LI ECNL teams are at this age group. Not really sure why. EM actually produces very good teams at the younger ages. Alby has gone to hell and a hand basket from U16 and younger. You blow your ECNL horn all you like, and it is accurate in many parts of the country, particularly out west. There simply is no denying that on LI, the ECNL choices are very weak teams relative to the other choices. If your willing to drive to NJ or CT for practices than you may find some good training.

Thanks for the good luck salutation but you definitely will need that luck more if your involved with ECNL on LI in this age group.


Don't you understand how it works? Don't you realize you train with and compete against second tier players/teams?

How does that help your girls? If your girls are "all that" as you say, why do they not play for Albertson or East Meadow? Why do they stay on a town teams?

Do you understand how youth soccer is structured?

It's tryout time of year, get your girls over to the tryouts and see if they can cut it or not. What's the downside?

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A very big downside would be having to listen to you pontificate at every practice and game

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That is why they were laughing, LI ECNL teams are extremely weak and would present no challenge at all. They realized it is much more important at this age to learn how to play the game properly. Even a jackass like yourself must know how weak the LI ECNL teams are at this age group. Not really sure why. EM actually produces very good teams at the younger ages. Alby has gone to hell and a hand basket from U16 and younger. You blow your ECNL horn all you like, and it is accurate in many parts of the country, particularly out west. There simply is no denying that on LI, the ECNL choices are very weak teams relative to the other choices. If your willing to drive to NJ or CT for practices than you may find some good training.

Thanks for the good luck salutation but you definitely will need that luck more if your involved with ECNL on LI in this age group.


Don't you understand how it works? Don't you realize you train with and compete against second tier players/teams?

How does that help your girls? If your girls are "all that" as you say, why do they not play for Albertson or East Meadow? Why do they stay on a town teams?

Do you understand how youth soccer is structured?

It's tryout time of year, get your girls over to the tryouts and see if they can cut it or not. What's the downside?
HUMMMMMMMMM...........DOWNSIDE!!!!!!! ......AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.............AT THIS AGE YOU ARE BETTER OFF NOT FUNDING PR POCKET OR EM'S NUT CASE!

#513308 - 04/07/13 08:06 PM Re: GU16 Premier Fall 2012 / Spring 2013 [Re: Anonymous]  

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A very big downside would be having to listen to you pontificate at every practice and game


Of course the more obvious downside is playing with weak players which actually harms a kids development. It is quite sad how bad LI ECNL has gotten in this age group, this jackass is basically pleading for any good player to come down to a tryout. I have to believe this idiot has burned so many bridges that he/she has gotten his kid stuck on the current Alby team with nowhere left to go. Unless this moron is an ECNL trainer, there is no other explanation for the desperate pleas to come on down and tryout.

Oh wait, I see the response now. "I am just an altruistic soul who is trying to tell you how youth soccer works". Translation "please please please send some talented kids down to my ECNL tryout, otherwise I will need to drive to CT for practices."

#513312 - 04/07/13 08:12 PM Re: GU16 Premier Fall 2012 / Spring 2013 [Re: Anonymous]  

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EM went 2-1
Alby went 1-2

EM played teams that would be equivelant to LIJ D2 teams
Alby played a little better competition.

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EM went 2-1
Alby went 1-2

EM played teams that would be equivelant to LIJ D2 teams
Alby played a little better competition.



How can you possibly now that. I'm sure the 10 best teams in some of those other divisions are better than teams on Long Island. For example the 10 best team in California is much better than the 10 best on our little island. I do not have a kid on either of those two teams , but i'm getting tired of the constant trash. One more time. It's U16. Stop acting like U10 parents. 18 months left for these girls . Just enjoy your kids!

#513320 - 04/07/13 08:56 PM Re: GU16 Premier Fall 2012 / Spring 2013 [Re: Anonymous]  

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That is why they were laughing, LI ECNL teams are extremely weak and would present no challenge at all. They realized it is much more important at this age to learn how to play the game properly. Even a jackass like yourself must know how weak the LI ECNL teams are at this age group. Not really sure why. EM actually produces very good teams at the younger ages. Alby has gone to hell and a hand basket from U16 and younger. You blow your ECNL horn all you like, and it is accurate in many parts of the country, particularly out west. There simply is no denying that on LI, the ECNL choices are very weak teams relative to the other choices. If your willing to drive to NJ or CT for practices than you may find some good training.

Thanks for the good luck salutation but you definitely will need that luck more if your involved with ECNL on LI in this age group.


Don't you understand how it works? Don't you realize you train with and compete against second tier players/teams?

How does that help your girls? If your girls are "all that" as you say, why do they not play for Albertson or East Meadow? Why do they stay on a town teams?

Do you understand how youth soccer is structured?

It's tryout time of year, get your girls over to the tryouts and see if they can cut it or not. What's the downside?
HUMMMMMMMMM...........DOWNSIDE!!!!!!! ......AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.............AT THIS AGE YOU ARE BETTER OFF NOT FUNDING PR POCKET OR EM'S NUT CASE!


I understand. That said, there is A LOT OF DEVELOPING LEFT TO DO. It's going to make college ball tougher if you finish up your career on a local team rather than an ECNL team.

#513362 - 04/08/13 08:34 AM Re: GU16 Premier Fall 2012 / Spring 2013 [Re: Anonymous]  

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My buddy has coached youth travel for years. This weekend he had occasion to watch this age group out in San Diego, he is what he posted on his local youth soccer board. Bear in mind, he is a long time coach who does not coach in the ECNL and is not from Long Island nor the NYC metro are.

"Let me tell you something the Speed of the game out here is the fastest soccer I have ever seen in my life.

To be able to compete in the ECNL You need to be the best !

The only way your are the best is by having one team with all the best players on it."

#513376 - 04/08/13 09:32 AM Re: GU16 Premier Fall 2012 / Spring 2013 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Here are some facts for you
U14 Girls National Pool - May 2012 - 30 ECNL players out of 48
U15 Girls National Team - June 2012 - 17 ECNL out of 24
U17 Girls National Team - June 2012- 23 ECNL out of 24
U18 Girls National Team - June 2012 - 19 ECNL out of 24

#513381 - 04/08/13 09:43 AM Re: GU16 Premier Fall 2012 / Spring 2013 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Here are some facts for you
U14 Girls National Pool - May 2012 - 30 ECNL players out of 48
U15 Girls National Team - June 2012 - 17 ECNL out of 24
U17 Girls National Team - June 2012- 23 ECNL out of 24
U18 Girls National Team - June 2012 - 19 ECNL out of 24



Is the list of names and their respective clubs available? I would be curious to know where these kids were from. If there are a fair representation of east coast kids here, then your ECNL argument has some merit. But if a large proportion of these kids are from non-east coast areas, then the previous poster is right, the ECNL around here is not necessarily the best route.

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My buddy has coached youth travel for years. This weekend he had occasion to watch this age group out in San Diego, he is what he posted on his local youth soccer board. Bear in mind, he is a long time coach who does not coach in the ECNL and is not from Long Island nor the NYC metro are.

"Let me tell you something the Speed of the game out here is the fastest soccer I have ever seen in my life.

To be able to compete in the ECNL You need to be the best !



The only way your are the best is by having one team with all the best players on it."




MR ECNL I am glad you finally agree with me. The west coast ECNL teams are excellent.
Some of the best teams in the country.
If you want to play with the best on LONG ISLAND. The ECNL is not the best option.
You can not be challenged by being on one of these teams and not playing with the best.
Congrats You finally get it.
Why play with a team that is inferior and gets smoke by all the teams out west that you mentioned. You need to train with and against the best players to get to be the best. Playing o an inferior team and getting crushed by the best teams is not a moral victory. Saying you play the best competition doesnt help if you cant compete.
The way to go is to be on the best team in the area and play in top showcases. Our team has played most of these west coast teams you speak about and we are not in the ECNL.
Thank YOU for making my point. Your buddy coach would be proud of you.

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Here are some facts for you
U14 Girls National Pool - May 2012 - 30 ECNL players out of 48
U15 Girls National Team - June 2012 - 17 ECNL out of 24
U17 Girls National Team - June 2012- 23 ECNL out of 24
U18 Girls National Team - June 2012 - 19 ECNL out of 24



Is the list of names and their respective clubs available? I would be curious to know where these kids were from. If there are a fair representation of east coast kids here, then your ECNL argument has some merit. But if a large proportion of these kids are from non-east coast areas, then the previous poster is right, the ECNL around here is not necessarily the best route.


OK. Found it for U15 and U17.
The U15 roster has 38 players. 6 are from local clubs. One from FC Bucks (ECNL), Two from Match Fit (recent members of ECNL), One from PDA (ECNL) and one from Massapequa (non-ECNL) and one from Oakwood CT (non-ECNL) Although Connecticut is kind of a trip from here to play, it is included anyway.

So of the 38 players, 6 are local kids and 4 play ECNL and 2 do not. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the ECNL.

The kids from CT and Mass still found their way into the National pool without any ECNL help. They play for club teams. It reinforces the point that talent will be found. You do not need to join one of the ECNL clubs to get recognized.

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